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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8938676" data-attributes="member: 7026617">Context still matters.&nbsp; In an environment where almost no fight is resolved in one roll, progress toward resolving the fight is still a success.&nbsp; When a result is impossible to get in one roll, not getting that is not failure.&nbsp; Arguing otherwise is trying to reframe the context to your convenience.And doesn't expect to do so with their first attack, since they've never managed to ever do that before in comparable situations.&nbsp; Its not an expected or reasonable result either in or out of character.I think comparing situations where you're doing a multiple roll process to ones where a action can finish its process in one is not a reasonable comparison.&nbsp; No one expects to build a house with a swing of a hammer.&nbsp; Its not possible.&nbsp; Partial success isn't partial if its all that can be done.&nbsp; Then what constitutes success if progress.&nbsp; Partial means something different.I think even if what you said was true (and I don't really think it is), this still disregards the &quot;complication&quot; part that normally goes with &quot;partial&quot; in those systems.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8938676, member: 7026617"] Context still matters. In an environment where almost no fight is resolved in one roll, progress toward resolving the fight is still a success. When a result is impossible to get in one roll, not getting that is not failure. Arguing otherwise is trying to reframe the context to your convenience. And doesn't expect to do so with their first attack, since they've never managed to ever do that before in comparable situations. Its not an expected or reasonable result either in or out of character. I think comparing situations where you're doing a multiple roll process to ones where a action can finish its process in one is not a reasonable comparison. No one expects to build a house with a swing of a hammer. Its not possible. Partial success isn't partial if its all that can be done. Then what constitutes success if progress. Partial means something different. I think even if what you said was true (and I don't really think it is), this still disregards the "complication" part that normally goes with "partial" in those systems. [/QUOTE]

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