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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8940431" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Sorry, frustration then.&nbsp; I compared your details about AW to what I know about BitD.&nbsp; I'm not sure where D&amp;D is coming into this part of the conversation.&nbsp; Nor do I know what else I can do to convince you that I wasn't doing any of what you are talking about here.&nbsp; Maybe I can't?&nbsp; Maybe it will help if I elaborate on what I meant.&nbsp; I get why you see it the way you are (and thus why I've offered to stop using the term), but the way you see it is not how I meant it.&nbsp; Proper also means 'acceptable'.&nbsp; My intent was that 'improper action' = 'action unacceptable for causing a player side move'.&nbsp; No where was I intending to make a value judgement about any AW play or any process of play in AW.&nbsp; I'm not arguing that we keep using the term, just trying to provide some context as to why I initially did.Note: I'm a bit frustrated too at this point, because unless you simply don't believe me, why wasn't apologizing, offering to use the term of your choice, and explaining none of this was my intent enough to move the conversation forward?I'm sure you are trying to be helpful here, but it does frustrate me that you think there's some need to go over the absolute basics because you presumably think I'm not following when you talked about the game the first time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8940431, member: 6795602"] Sorry, frustration then. I compared your details about AW to what I know about BitD. I'm not sure where D&D is coming into this part of the conversation. Nor do I know what else I can do to convince you that I wasn't doing any of what you are talking about here. Maybe I can't? Maybe it will help if I elaborate on what I meant. I get why you see it the way you are (and thus why I've offered to stop using the term), but the way you see it is not how I meant it. Proper also means 'acceptable'. My intent was that 'improper action' = 'action unacceptable for causing a player side move'. No where was I intending to make a value judgement about any AW play or any process of play in AW. I'm not arguing that we keep using the term, just trying to provide some context as to why I initially did. Note: I'm a bit frustrated too at this point, because unless you simply don't believe me, why wasn't apologizing, offering to use the term of your choice, and explaining none of this was my intent enough to move the conversation forward? I'm sure you are trying to be helpful here, but it does frustrate me that you think there's some need to go over the absolute basics because you presumably think I'm not following when you talked about the game the first time. [/QUOTE]

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