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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8940631" data-attributes="member: 71699">This is a troubled area for discussion, and I absolutely believe that there is validity in the views expressed by [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER] and others. My personal experience is that, this is emphatically not a one way street. I sometimes reach a strong sense of &quot;any game, but 5e&quot;-ism in some threads.I can see characteristics of 5e that just fail to deliver on what some folk are looking for, or are milquetoast in those regards. Additionally, 5e is the gorilla in the room, it scarcely needs defending. And I suppose that is where recently I have landed. If folk are punching upwards, then so what? Yes, the tail end of threads can start to feel like an echo-chamber, but on the other side 5e is kind of a 24/7, 120 decibel barrage.And yet again, it really is fatiguing to have to shrug off denigration of a game you and your friends have gained years of enjoyment from. Particularly when some of the great commercial game design that produced 5e is woefully under-acknowledged. I find it depressing at a certain point in a thread to start feeling dogpiled by the likes button. (A feature I rather wish Enworld would abolish.)So there is that...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 8940631, member: 71699"] This is a troubled area for discussion, and I absolutely believe that there is validity in the views expressed by [USER=16586]@Campbell[/USER] and others. My personal experience is that, this is emphatically not a one way street. I sometimes reach a strong sense of "[I]any game, but 5e[/I]"-ism in some threads. I can see characteristics of 5e that just fail to deliver on what some folk are looking for, or are milquetoast in those regards. Additionally, 5e is the gorilla in the room, it scarcely needs defending. And I suppose that is where recently I have landed. If folk are punching upwards, then so what? Yes, the tail end of threads can start to feel like an echo-chamber, but on the other side 5e is kind of a 24/7, 120 decibel barrage. And yet again, it really is fatiguing to have to shrug off denigration of a game you and your friends have gained years of enjoyment from. Particularly when some of the great [I]commercial[/I] game design that produced 5e is woefully under-acknowledged. I find it depressing at a certain point in a thread to start feeling dogpiled by the likes button. (A feature I rather wish Enworld would abolish.) So there is that... [/QUOTE]

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