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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9475574" data-attributes="member: 6796468">The Eldritch Knight is meant to be an Intelligence caster like a Wizard. They do some War Magic with cantrip+attack and eventually spell+attack. Like that's the heart of it.You make a Fighter-Eldritch Knight and you go from 1-20 with that because it does the Gish Thing.But instead, people take Eldritch Knight, dump Intelligence, stack Charisma, dip Warlock, get Eldritch Blast and Agonizing Blast, and use it instead.Which is hardly a -bad- thing. But the purpose of a system is what it does...So you wound up making a Fighter archetype whose casting attribute is best ignored in favor of multiclassing into Warlock.Now, in D&D24, they've implemented the "Hey! Stop That!" game design, making it impossible to fully benefit from the Warlock dip. They've broken a functional system that was fulfilling class fantasy in a backdoor optional rules way.Like. They -clearly- knew that's what people were doing with it, otherwise they wouldn't have "Fixed" it.Instead they should've gone the opposite direction and redesigned the Eldritch Knight to be Warlock-Friendly to the point that a level dip wasn't needed. Instead of making the Eldritch Knight a Wizard/Fighter gish they should've leaned in on making it a Warlock/Fighter gish.Like giving them an Eldritch-Blast equivalent ability out of the gate. Maybe a special 1d8+Int class feature that 'counts as a cantrip' for the purposes of War Magic instead of 1d10 with Agonizing Blast as an option.Or hell... skip the War Magic function of it. Make it an Attack-Replacing 1d8+Int ranged spell attack that you use as part of the attack action. Then make War Magic include a line that if you use that ability you also get a bonus action attack (in addition to War Magic's normal function).Got 3 attacks? Throw 2 magic blasts and a sword strike. Or two sword strikes and a magic blast. Or three blasts. And then bonus action War Magic.Then they'd have a significantly lowered desire, much less a perceived 'Need' to multiclass into Warlock for Eldritch Blast/Agonizing Blast.</blockquote>

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