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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 9478179" data-attributes="member: 59057">Which I did not say. Maybe you should read what I write and stop building straw men. You can still build an effectice low int fighter. Your cantrip could be blade ward.Or minor illusion. Or resistance. Or light. Or dancing lights.Or you can just not use a cantrip. The 2014 fighter always had incentives to just use their standard (extra) attack action.Yes. Obviously.Why are you so keen on using EB then?You could get magic initate wizard and chose charisma as your casting stat. So you could have an attack cantrip to use (or two... including true strike).*Take magic initate. A fighter has so many feats, that they can spare one and use it on an origin feat, especially if they chose to dump a main stat.If you are so keen on making a special build, why don't you get a bit creative? Yeah, that does indeed not work. Prestidigitation could do it. Wrong. Magic intiate wizard spells are wizard spells. Nothing in the description says you can only use your spells gained from the subclass.Why are you inventing a rule thatvdoes not exist just to prove a "point"? Also, why chose message from the EK and not mage hand? And message from magic initate? I mean, in 2024 you can change the cantrip of MI on level up. So at level 3 you can be clever and just move spells a bit around. 2014 class. Does not count.The vard is THE versatile class. It might be an oversight though.For you at least.*you could even be a human guide with magic initate druid and magic initiate wizard, chose wisdom both times, start with wisdom 16 and use a club as your main weapon or a quarterstaff. You can cast shillelagh with your bonus action and still use truestrike and attack with your club normall, only using wisdom as your attacl stat. At level 17 you do 11d6 damage as your normal attack damage ad you can keep str at medium level and dump int to 6.</blockquote>

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