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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9486908" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Yeah just like "cast a Wizard Cantrip" does not mean I can cast any Wizard Cantrip I want.</p><p></p><p>There is a difference between meaning and intent and in context it is clear what both of these examples mean without "exact wording" stating such.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok first a clarification on the rules: Simming has nothing to do with difficult terrain. When swimming each foot of movement costs an extra foot of movement and that is if it is <u><strong>NOT</strong></u> difficult terrain. If it is difficult terrain it costs two extra feet of movement to swim (this is in the rules glossary).</p><p></p><p>Now to address this post:</p><p></p><p>RAW according to what you said earlier "Only exact wording matters" and it does not have any exact wording saying I need to have a fly speed to move up into the air.</p><p></p><p>Further, it does say that swimming each foot of movement costs two feet if I do not have a swim speed. But it does not say I have to swim when in water. So if I want to swim then yes this<em> "exact wording"</em> would apply, but can't I just as easily move through the water without swimming and do it at my full movement without spending an extra foot for each foot .... because why not it does not have any <em>"exact wording"</em> on it?</p><p></p><p>Your response here underscores my point - I can't move up in the air, I can't walk through an ocean and I can't cast any Cantrip from the Wizard list because in context the section on movement and position and in context the EK subclass makes it clear what these rules mean without "exact wording" stipulating so.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I actually said this earlier in the post, the wording is terrible and you have to read the section in context to understand the meaning of "Wizard spell" and "Wizard Cantrip" as they relate to EK. The spells the Eldritch Knight gets are "Wizard spells" and it says so in the EK subclass section. It does not just say they choose from the Wizard list, it states they are Wizard spells and refers to them as Wizard Spells and "your Wizard Spells" (and "Wizard Cantrip") throughout that section.</p><p></p><p>I will also point out that it states <em>"Intelligence is your spellcasting ability for your Wizard spells." </em>not the spells you selected as an Eldritch Knight. It specifies <em>"your Wizard spells" </em>which includes your <em>"Wizard Cantrips". </em>So if your position that "Wizard spell" means any spell on the Wizard list, wouldn't this overide the casting stat on any spells you have from another class? If I have Firebolt as a Sorcerer or something on Charisma through Magic Initiate(Wizard) or Elf, do I have to cast it with intelligence now since it is a "Wizard spell".</p><p></p><p>Again in context it is explicitly clear what they mean, without any exact wording!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9486908, member: 7030563"] Yeah just like "cast a Wizard Cantrip" does not mean I can cast any Wizard Cantrip I want. There is a difference between meaning and intent and in context it is clear what both of these examples mean without "exact wording" stating such. Ok first a clarification on the rules: Simming has nothing to do with difficult terrain. When swimming each foot of movement costs an extra foot of movement and that is if it is [U][B]NOT[/B][/U] difficult terrain. If it is difficult terrain it costs two extra feet of movement to swim (this is in the rules glossary). Now to address this post: RAW according to what you said earlier "Only exact wording matters" and it does not have any exact wording saying I need to have a fly speed to move up into the air. Further, it does say that swimming each foot of movement costs two feet if I do not have a swim speed. But it does not say I have to swim when in water. So if I want to swim then yes this[I] "exact wording"[/I] would apply, but can't I just as easily move through the water without swimming and do it at my full movement without spending an extra foot for each foot .... because why not it does not have any [I]"exact wording"[/I] on it? Your response here underscores my point - I can't move up in the air, I can't walk through an ocean and I can't cast any Cantrip from the Wizard list because in context the section on movement and position and in context the EK subclass makes it clear what these rules mean without "exact wording" stipulating so. I actually said this earlier in the post, the wording is terrible and you have to read the section in context to understand the meaning of "Wizard spell" and "Wizard Cantrip" as they relate to EK. The spells the Eldritch Knight gets are "Wizard spells" and it says so in the EK subclass section. It does not just say they choose from the Wizard list, it states they are Wizard spells and refers to them as Wizard Spells and "your Wizard Spells" (and "Wizard Cantrip") throughout that section. I will also point out that it states [I]"Intelligence is your spellcasting ability for your Wizard spells." [/I]not the spells you selected as an Eldritch Knight. It specifies [I]"your Wizard spells" [/I]which includes your [I]"Wizard Cantrips". [/I]So if your position that "Wizard spell" means any spell on the Wizard list, wouldn't this overide the casting stat on any spells you have from another class? If I have Firebolt as a Sorcerer or something on Charisma through Magic Initiate(Wizard) or Elf, do I have to cast it with intelligence now since it is a "Wizard spell". Again in context it is explicitly clear what they mean, without any exact wording! [/QUOTE]
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