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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9527388" data-attributes="member: 6801228">This claim bothered me, so I decided to re-read the Eldritch Knight from beginning to end, to get this context.[SPOILER="Spellcasting level 3"]Level 3: SpellcastingYou have learned to cast spells. See chapter 7 for the rules on spellcasting. The information below details how you use those rules as an Eldritch Knight. Cantrips. You know two cantrips of your choice from the Wizard spell list (see that class's section for its list). Ray of Frost and Shocking Grasp are recommended. Whenever you gain a Fighter level, you can replace one of these cantrips with another cantrip of your choice from the Wizard spell list.When you reach Fighter level 10, you learn another Wizard cantrip of your choice. Spell Slots. The Eldritch Knight Spellcasting table shows how many spell slots you have to cast your level 1+ spells. You regain all expended slots when you finish a Long Rest. Prepared Spells of Level 1+. You prepare the list of level 1+ spells that are available for you to cast with this feature. To start, choose three level 1 spells from the Wizard spell list. Burning Hands, Jump, and Shield are recommended.The number of spells on your list increases as you gain Fighter levels, as shown in the Prepared Spells column of the Eldritch Knight Spellcasting table. Whenever that number increases, choose additional spells from the Wizard spell list until the number of spells on your list matches the number on the table. The chosen spells must be of a level for which you have spell slots. For example, if you're a level 7 Fighter, your list of prepared spells can include five Wizard spells of levels 1 and 2 in any combination. Changing your Prepared Spells. Whenever you gain a Fighter level, you can replace one spell on your list with another Wizard spell for which you have spell slots. Spellcasting Ability. Intelligence is your spellcasting ability for your Wizard spells. Spellcasting Focus. You can use an Arcane Focus as a Spellcasting Focus for your Wizard spells.[/SPOILER][SPOILER="War Magic level 7"]Level 7: War Magic When you take the Attack action on your turn, you can replace one of the attacks with a casting of one of your Wizard cantrips that has a casting time of an action.[/SPOILER][SPOILER="Improved War Magic level 17"]Level 18: Improved War MagicWhen you take the Attack action on your turn, you can replace two of the attacks with a casting of one of your level 1 or level 2 Wizard spells that has a casting time of an action.[/SPOILER]These are the only abilities for the EK that use the phrase "wizard spell" or "wizard cantrip". Except, that isn't the phrase, because to be clear it says "your Wizard cantrip" or "your Wizard spell". And I think I know what is going on here. It says your wizard spells or your wizard cantrips, because as a Fighter you don't get spells or cantrips. If you read the Arcane Trickster level 3 ability, it is worded identically to the Eldritch Knight ability. Now yes, the Valor bard says "your cantrip"... because you are a Bard, your class gave you cantrips. Unlike the Fighter, which needed to get Wizard cantrips. And, at no point do you need to change the meaning of the phrase for by thinking of it as "your cantrips" or "your spells", because the subclass was simply written in such a way as to assume that you do not have any other spells other than those granted by the subclass, which are all wizard spells. For example, you could look to the Sorcerer. Innate sorcerery specifies "sorcerer spells" but I do not believe anyone would blink an eye at a Draw Sorcerer gaining the benefit of Innate sorcerery on their Faerie Fire, especially since I've never seen anyone saying that a Sorcerer who dips warlock cannot use Innate Sorcerery on Eldritch Blast, despite it not being a sorcerer spell.</blockquote>

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