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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9528109" data-attributes="member: 7030563">This wording would clear up any ambiguity RAW, but I don't think this is what they meant or they would have said it.  They use the term Wizard spell list several times and did not use it in these four places, strongly implying that it is something different in those places.I agree it is nonsense.  It is clear to me when they use the term they mean Cantrip you got from the Eldritch Knight subclass.It does exist.  they are talked about a couple lines above.  An cantrip you get from the Eldritch Knight feature is selected from the Wizard list and is referred to as a "Wizard Cantrip" in the rest of this section.  It is crystal clear to me that this is the intended meaning even if it is not to you.No in this section it is a Cantrip you have from the Eldritch Knight feature (which are also from the wizard list, but a subset of that full list).  I agree they could have worded it better bnut it is clear to me that your interpretation is not the intended wording.If they meant any cantrip from the Wizard list they would have said that.I guess it theoretically can mean that, but here we are only talking about the intended meaning in the Eldritch Knight subclass. If you have specific wording from other section I would be happy to talk about it, and what that term, if used elsewhere, means in those sections, but they are not applicable to the Eldritch Knight section.Yes it does exist.  The Eldritch Knight subclass is covered on pages 96-98 including detail on how to acquire spells and cantrips under that subclass.You can do anything the DM allows at your table.  What is clear to me though is "Wizard cantrip" as used on page 98 of the PHB is intended to apply to cantrips gained through the Eldritch Knight subclass.My position is very consistent and yes the wording in the Eldritch Knight subclass is poor and does not apply outside the EK subclass and this was discussed on this thread some 30 pages ago.</blockquote>

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