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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9528223" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>My Arcane Trickster is an Intelligence caster and has MAgic Initiate-Wizard on Charisma.</p><p></p><p>Using the 2014 rules every single Eldritch Knight I played had an 8 Intelligence, except the ones that multiclassed Wizard and they had a 13 or 14 and the feat spells I got were on other abilities.</p><p></p><p>Dumping Intelligence is EXTREMELY common on an Eldrtich Knight. Treantmonk did it in his first 2024 EK.</p><p></p><p>Just because YOU personally don't do that doesn't mean no one else does and just because you don't have to keep track of that "fiddly" stuff on your PCs doesn;t mean no one else does either</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except a Cleric gets 3 cantrips and you only mentioned one. Further saying it does not matter in one specific build is hardly evidence it does not matter in general.</p><p></p><p>Your point is it is overly fiddly to keep track of where you got what spells from and that is not true generally in a multiclass build. In most multiclassed builds it is essential.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No most people who multiclass casters keep track of what spells are from what class. It is extremely rare to find people that don't and dumping Intelligence on an Eldritch Knight is extremely common. I would venture to say it rivals Wisdom as the most common dump stat on an Eldritch Knight.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It proves there is at least one character being played like that, unlike your hypothetical strawman Cleric-Wizard-Fighter. </p><p></p><p>I provided a real world example of a PC being played to support my point. Can you provide one to support yours? A character actually being played, that you can provide a link to, that is multiclassed with 2 different casting stats AND has the Magic Initiate Feat AND does not concern themselves with fiddling on which classes get what spells?</p><p></p><p>Actually you claim above 90% of multiclassed casters don't concern themselves with this, while offering no evidence at all to back this up. If this is true, it should be pretty easy to find 9 real multiclassed characters with different casting abilities actually being played to counterbalance the one I provided.</p><p></p><p>How many multiclassed casters are you playing right now that don't need to track which spells are from which classes? (I am playing three that do FWIW)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9528223, member: 7030563"] My Arcane Trickster is an Intelligence caster and has MAgic Initiate-Wizard on Charisma. Using the 2014 rules every single Eldritch Knight I played had an 8 Intelligence, except the ones that multiclassed Wizard and they had a 13 or 14 and the feat spells I got were on other abilities. Dumping Intelligence is EXTREMELY common on an Eldrtich Knight. Treantmonk did it in his first 2024 EK. Just because YOU personally don't do that doesn't mean no one else does and just because you don't have to keep track of that "fiddly" stuff on your PCs doesn;t mean no one else does either Except a Cleric gets 3 cantrips and you only mentioned one. Further saying it does not matter in one specific build is hardly evidence it does not matter in general. Your point is it is overly fiddly to keep track of where you got what spells from and that is not true generally in a multiclass build. In most multiclassed builds it is essential. No most people who multiclass casters keep track of what spells are from what class. It is extremely rare to find people that don't and dumping Intelligence on an Eldritch Knight is extremely common. I would venture to say it rivals Wisdom as the most common dump stat on an Eldritch Knight. It proves there is at least one character being played like that, unlike your hypothetical strawman Cleric-Wizard-Fighter. I provided a real world example of a PC being played to support my point. Can you provide one to support yours? A character actually being played, that you can provide a link to, that is multiclassed with 2 different casting stats AND has the Magic Initiate Feat AND does not concern themselves with fiddling on which classes get what spells? Actually you claim above 90% of multiclassed casters don't concern themselves with this, while offering no evidence at all to back this up. If this is true, it should be pretty easy to find 9 real multiclassed characters with different casting abilities actually being played to counterbalance the one I provided. How many multiclassed casters are you playing right now that don't need to track which spells are from which classes? (I am playing three that do FWIW) [/QUOTE]
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