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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 9529579" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>I'm curious about this reasoning. You seem to be saying that because it is true that an EK must be casting "your cantrips" features should avoid referring to that truth. Is that accurate?</p><p></p><p>That features cannot permit characters to cast spells they do not otherwise have access to sounds like an important general rule, so were I making your argument I might start by pointing to wording like</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Before you can cast a spell, you must have the spell prepared in your mind</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>to show that said important general rule is in place. That particular text fails to explain cases such as Agonizing Blast that refer to "your" Warlock cantrips even when they are not being cast... so one is forced to look elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>One quickly notices that a critical barrier to this reasoning is that were class features <em>unable to grant the casting of spells a character would not otherwise be able to cast </em>then Spellcasting itself couldn't do so. Therefore one must concede that characters can possess features that <em>were it not for that feature </em>enable them to cast spells.</p><p></p><p>In that light, "your" becomes an important word, because it refers to spells that a character has <em>in virtue of other features they possess</em>. So that the feature to hand - War Magic - while it allows the casting of a spell is differentiated from other features that might do so, in that it does not grant any spells to thus cast.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes! And the wording used contains "your". QED.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Rats, but -- notwithstanding that I believe my reasoning above will prove tough to refute -- I look forward to it!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 9529579, member: 71699"] I'm curious about this reasoning. You seem to be saying that because it is true that an EK must be casting "your cantrips" features should avoid referring to that truth. Is that accurate? That features cannot permit characters to cast spells they do not otherwise have access to sounds like an important general rule, so were I making your argument I might start by pointing to wording like [INDENT]Before you can cast a spell, you must have the spell prepared in your mind[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] to show that said important general rule is in place. That particular text fails to explain cases such as Agonizing Blast that refer to "your" Warlock cantrips even when they are not being cast... so one is forced to look elsewhere. One quickly notices that a critical barrier to this reasoning is that were class features [I]unable to grant the casting of spells a character would not otherwise be able to cast [/I]then Spellcasting itself couldn't do so. Therefore one must concede that characters can possess features that [I]were it not for that feature [/I]enable them to cast spells. In that light, "your" becomes an important word, because it refers to spells that a character has [I]in virtue of other features they possess[/I]. So that the feature to hand - War Magic - while it allows the casting of a spell is differentiated from other features that might do so, in that it does not grant any spells to thus cast. Yes! And the wording used contains "your". QED. Rats, but -- notwithstanding that I believe my reasoning above will prove tough to refute -- I look forward to it! [/QUOTE]
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