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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 9530304" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>I agree with you. Another interesting consequence is that an EK/Wiz could even have some spells they know but cannot for the moment cast with War Magic. That is because of the general rule that</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">"Before you can cast a spell, you must have the spell prepared in your mind..."</p><p></p><p>And wizards are able to know (have in their spell books) more spells than they have prepared. War Magic neither conflicts with nor overwrites the general rule.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The RAW yields a consistent game system based on "your Wizard spells" being <em>spells you gained from the Wizard list</em>, but folk will invevitably continue to RAI in all kinds of ways.</p><p></p><p>One motivation that folk might have is that they're concerned to be able to use War Magic with cantrips EK might find a way to access from other spell lists. For me the problem is that then requires torturous reasoning about why "your Wizard cantrips" doesn't limit it to... wizard cantrips. Possibly including theories that "Wizard" is code for "Eldritch Knight"... notwithstanding that if that was intended surely "your Eldritch Knight cantrips" or even just "your cantrips" would have been better motivated.</p><p></p><p>And up thread (my <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/not-a-fan-of-the-new-eldritch-knight.707157/post-9528337" target="_blank">#357</a>) I gave the mechanical basis for excluding spells appearing on the wizard spell list but gained from a different list such as sorcerer or warlock.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 9530304, member: 71699"] I agree with you. Another interesting consequence is that an EK/Wiz could even have some spells they know but cannot for the moment cast with War Magic. That is because of the general rule that [INDENT]"Before you can cast a spell, you must have the spell prepared in your mind..."[/INDENT] And wizards are able to know (have in their spell books) more spells than they have prepared. War Magic neither conflicts with nor overwrites the general rule. The RAW yields a consistent game system based on "your Wizard spells" being [I]spells you gained from the Wizard list[/I], but folk will invevitably continue to RAI in all kinds of ways. One motivation that folk might have is that they're concerned to be able to use War Magic with cantrips EK might find a way to access from other spell lists. For me the problem is that then requires torturous reasoning about why "your Wizard cantrips" doesn't limit it to... wizard cantrips. Possibly including theories that "Wizard" is code for "Eldritch Knight"... notwithstanding that if that was intended surely "your Eldritch Knight cantrips" or even just "your cantrips" would have been better motivated. And up thread (my [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/not-a-fan-of-the-new-eldritch-knight.707157/post-9528337']#357[/URL]) I gave the mechanical basis for excluding spells appearing on the wizard spell list but gained from a different list such as sorcerer or warlock. [/QUOTE]
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