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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9531045" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Fine, you want characters actually being played? Here ya go[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2829733[/URL][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2871463[/URL][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2842037[/URL][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2935161[/URL][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2562730[/URL]I also have a paper sheet for a 6th level Beasthide Shifter Trickery Domain cleric. I won't provide links to other people's sheets that are not mine to share, but we have a Human Gloomstalker Ranger, Drow Bard/Warlock. Dwarven Wizard, Half-Elf Paladin, Orc Gunslinger (Mercer's), Elf Wizard, Returned Celestial Warlock, Halfling Fathomless Warlock, Tiefling Monk, Harengon Paladin, Human Rogue/Shadow Monk, Human Berserker Barbarian, Kobold Sorcerer, Human Psy Warrior, Elf Dancer Bard, and there is a game starting soon with an Orc Monk, Halfling Thief, Half-Orc Cleric, and potentially a Fairy Bard. So, now that I have listed  25 characters in actual play who don't use multiple casting stats, I win right? That's how this argument works the most "real" examples win? Or is this kind of a pointless exercise that you keep hammering on, like somehow my telling you Most people I play with don't multiclass and most of their multiclasses aren't combining multiple casting stats is enough.I've been in three games that use the 2024 rules. Those characters are all listed above. Good enough evidence for you, right?Oh, moving the goalposts before I even post. Awesome. I knew it was a waste of my time.I hate accusing people of reading comprehension problems, I feel it is rude. But my only other recourse is to assume you are willfully lying, by taking "none of my groups currently have a multi-class character" to mean "No one at tables I play with play multiclass characters" The game including the Rogue/Gloomstalker Ranger is on hiatus and currently likely to die. The game with the Bard/Warlock the player of that game who is central to the plot is moving states, so that game is dead. The pathfinder game I was in a few years ago with gestalt characters isn't DnD. I could attempt to dredge my entire gaming history, think there was a tabaxi Bladesinger/Rogue/Fighter that someone played once, but he wasn't my character and I didn't care enough to save his character sheet for the last six years. And again... this proves NOTHING. Except you latched on to a single phrase I said and are beating it like a dead horse that owes you money, screaming about how your are proving me wrong somehow.Seriously, I keep waiting for you to make ANY other point than to crow about how you think I don't know anything because I didn't have a dozen examples of multiclass characters to show you. But hey, I get it, lists of examples are interesting to you I guess. So here are some more. [MEDIA=reddit]dndnext/comments/1e0qw3e[/MEDIA][MEDIA=reddit]dndnext/comments/1e0qw3e/comment/lcotkhx[/MEDIA][MEDIA=reddit]onednd/comments/1e0qxoi/comment/lcoqlyx[/MEDIA][MEDIA=reddit]onednd/comments/1ey3zwm/comment/ljc3k7b[/MEDIA][MEDIA=reddit]onednd/comments/1ey3zwm/comment/ljajq3k[/MEDIA]<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/onednd/comments/1ey3zwm/comment/ljb36ux/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button" target="_blank">Reddit - Dive into anything</a>I think that is another ten or so multiclasses showing the exact same logic I keep talking about? You likely won't count them as "real" though. At least this only took me two minutes to google.Really? You didn't list every single mutli-classed character at every single table you've ever played at or seen on a youtube video, so why should I believe you?Shonk No, you don't say? Why, when I said it wasn't optimal I didn't think that I was right/sYes, you started this thread claiming that Eldritch Knight is bad because you can't play them as a charisma-caster. I'm aware. I think that is a really poor way of looking at the subclass, because it ignores how the subclass is actually played (see, I know a little about this from a Kobold Eldritch Knight played a few years ago, whose character sheet I can't show you because it isn't my property). A take of "this is bad because this one build I want to do doesn't work" isn't a good take.Please elucidate me on my expierence with 2024. I'd love to hear how you know the games I've been in better than me.</blockquote>

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