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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9671554" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>I think you should build Intelligence first. Your strongest attack from level 7 on uses Intelligence, not dex. I think either Dex or strength is more important than constitution though. Strength gives you better Armor without a movement penalty, lets you use heavy weapns and given the choice between AC and hit points I would usually take AC. That said a 13 Strength and 12 Constitution cover a lot of ground. 8 strength is a lot of compromises, but better than 8 dexterity.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because you use hurl a Javelin (using truestrike if you have low strength) at the bad guy and then use WS (save with disadvantage) and he can't close with you if he fails. Now he is at disadvantage and must use a ranged attack (or no attack if he lacks a ranged attack).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>yes but it eats up your bonus action. If you get Shilleleagh, you should definitely not get PAM IMO. You are down on damage any way you slice it. You lose the ASI for taking PAM so you are getting an extra attack on the 2nd round of combat and giving up damage on every round every attack compared to just an ASI. On the flip side if you don't PAM the first round you are behind on damage until at least round 3. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. </p><p></p><p>Wrathful Smite is also a bonus action and it is most effective on the first round of combat, which again conflicts with Shillelagh out of the gate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>An EK should really focus on the cantrip portion of the attack IME. Yes the other attacks are there, but Shilleleagh is not a lot of extra damage and you can start raising your attack stat at high levels.</p><p></p><p>Conceptually 3 attacks with a Shilleleagh versus 3 with a Rapier It maxes out at 10DPR at level 11 (assuming 16 strength/20 Intellgence) and it is less than 10 DPR at both lower and higher levels, and that does not count Vex which is the most reliable damage boost of all the sword and board masteries. </p><p></p><p>In play with Vex it is going to be more like 8 DPR with a staff at level 11 and about equal before that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9671554, member: 7030563"] I think you should build Intelligence first. Your strongest attack from level 7 on uses Intelligence, not dex. I think either Dex or strength is more important than constitution though. Strength gives you better Armor without a movement penalty, lets you use heavy weapns and given the choice between AC and hit points I would usually take AC. That said a 13 Strength and 12 Constitution cover a lot of ground. 8 strength is a lot of compromises, but better than 8 dexterity. Because you use hurl a Javelin (using truestrike if you have low strength) at the bad guy and then use WS (save with disadvantage) and he can't close with you if he fails. Now he is at disadvantage and must use a ranged attack (or no attack if he lacks a ranged attack). yes but it eats up your bonus action. If you get Shilleleagh, you should definitely not get PAM IMO. You are down on damage any way you slice it. You lose the ASI for taking PAM so you are getting an extra attack on the 2nd round of combat and giving up damage on every round every attack compared to just an ASI. On the flip side if you don't PAM the first round you are behind on damage until at least round 3. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Wrathful Smite is also a bonus action and it is most effective on the first round of combat, which again conflicts with Shillelagh out of the gate. An EK should really focus on the cantrip portion of the attack IME. Yes the other attacks are there, but Shilleleagh is not a lot of extra damage and you can start raising your attack stat at high levels. Conceptually 3 attacks with a Shilleleagh versus 3 with a Rapier It maxes out at 10DPR at level 11 (assuming 16 strength/20 Intellgence) and it is less than 10 DPR at both lower and higher levels, and that does not count Vex which is the most reliable damage boost of all the sword and board masteries. In play with Vex it is going to be more like 8 DPR with a staff at level 11 and about equal before that. [/QUOTE]
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