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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9872163" data-attributes="member: 23751">Your interpretation doesn't align with the wording of the rules at all."Willing. If your urging aligns with the monster's desires, no ability check is necessary; the monster fulfills your request in a way it prefers."Do you see how with a willing creature no ability check is necessary?  Here's Charmed."While you have the Charmed condition, you experience the following effects.Can't Harm the Charmer. You can't attack the charmer or target the charmer with damaging abilities or magical effects.Social Advantage. The charmer has Advantage on any ability check to interact with you socially."Do you see how Charmed grants advantage on ability checks made socially? Those are mutually exclusive positions.  You cannot have Charmed make someone willing and therefore not have any ability check in social situations like your suggestion idea to fail saves, and also cause social ability checks to be made with advantage.  That's hard proof that the Charmed condition does not make creatures willing.The only one bending over backwards here to make their interpretation happen is you.  There's nothing written that allows what you say, and there are written rules that directly oppose what you say.The Suggestion spell can only force a course of action against the will of creature.  It then applies the Charmed condition, which as I just proved, does not force willingness.  Your proposal upthread fails on its face.</blockquote>

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