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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9872468" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Your exact words on post 539 (undeline and bold are mine):</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Did they use Arcane Abeyance to bind <strong><u>Summon Dragon</u></strong> into the bead, given it to a party member, preferably <strong><u>a Fighter</u></strong> or Artificer, or their familiar, then cast Summon Dragon normally to have two summons on the battlefield at the same time. Have they used Telekinesis to burn through legendary resistances and then forced a fail to virtually incapacitate?</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now that explicitly talks about fighters using Summon Dragon and I would argue the commonly inferred meaning is other party members are going to use AA for Telekenisis, otherwise what is the reason for Telekenisis being in that paragraph at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well you may have meant Immunity, but you said resistance, which is quite common and more to the point I did not "ignore" either but addressed both explicitly before you posted that. Do you need me to post the thread numbers where I addressed them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is what you actually said:</p><p></p><p><em>"Also, you keep deliberately ignoring that both the Charmed and the Poisoned condition are two of the most <u><strong>resisted </strong></u>conditions in the Monster Manual."</em></p><p></p><p>Poison resistance gives you advantage on saves against poison, that does not matter because there is no save in Selune's Viper. On other spells it does matter. There is not an actual charm resistance that I know of, but Fey Lineage gives you advantage on Charms.</p><p></p><p>So what you said was "resisted", not "immunity" I can't read your mind and tell what you meant to say, I can only go by what you post.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you actually meant "immunity" you were WRONG as I addressed immunity multiple times before you posted that. I did not "ignore" immunity to either the charmed condition or the poisoned condition as you claimed I did.</p><p></p><p>I posted about immunity to charm in post #536 and commented on poison immunity on post #585, so as a point of fact I did not "ignore" either immunity to charmed or immunity to poisoned.</p><p></p><p>Is that what you wanted?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not the only one</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> In the very first post I made on this I <strong><u>specifically </u></strong>stated that a Goblin Enchanter is <u><strong>not</strong></u> the most powerful at every level, but it is the most powerful Wizard at the most levels from <strong><u>2-20</u></strong>. Treantmonk's ranking only weights things heavily if they are useful at lower levels and he explains this in the begining of the video. His rankings, by his own wording, are biased towards lower level play.</p><p></p><p>A lot of the power in Enchantment Wizard is at high level. For example, being able to twin Dominate Person does not come online until 10th level, Twin Ottos Dance-11th level, Twin Dominate Monster 15th level. Twin Silvery Barbs AT WILL does not come into play until 18th level. Treantmonk did not consider such things in his ranking because it is focused on low levels.</p><p></p><p>In addition he also did not consider race.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9872468, member: 7030563"] Your exact words on post 539 (undeline and bold are mine): [I]Did they use Arcane Abeyance to bind [B][U]Summon Dragon[/U][/B] into the bead, given it to a party member, preferably [B][U]a Fighter[/U][/B] or Artificer, or their familiar, then cast Summon Dragon normally to have two summons on the battlefield at the same time. Have they used Telekinesis to burn through legendary resistances and then forced a fail to virtually incapacitate?[/I] Now that explicitly talks about fighters using Summon Dragon and I would argue the commonly inferred meaning is other party members are going to use AA for Telekenisis, otherwise what is the reason for Telekenisis being in that paragraph at all. Well you may have meant Immunity, but you said resistance, which is quite common and more to the point I did not "ignore" either but addressed both explicitly before you posted that. Do you need me to post the thread numbers where I addressed them. Here is what you actually said: [I]"Also, you keep deliberately ignoring that both the Charmed and the Poisoned condition are two of the most [U][B]resisted [/B][/U]conditions in the Monster Manual."[/I] Poison resistance gives you advantage on saves against poison, that does not matter because there is no save in Selune's Viper. On other spells it does matter. There is not an actual charm resistance that I know of, but Fey Lineage gives you advantage on Charms. So what you said was "resisted", not "immunity" I can't read your mind and tell what you meant to say, I can only go by what you post. If you actually meant "immunity" you were WRONG as I addressed immunity multiple times before you posted that. I did not "ignore" immunity to either the charmed condition or the poisoned condition as you claimed I did. I posted about immunity to charm in post #536 and commented on poison immunity on post #585, so as a point of fact I did not "ignore" either immunity to charmed or immunity to poisoned. Is that what you wanted? I am not the only one In the very first post I made on this I [B][U]specifically [/U][/B]stated that a Goblin Enchanter is [U][B]not[/B][/U] the most powerful at every level, but it is the most powerful Wizard at the most levels from [B][U]2-20[/U][/B]. Treantmonk's ranking only weights things heavily if they are useful at lower levels and he explains this in the begining of the video. His rankings, by his own wording, are biased towards lower level play. A lot of the power in Enchantment Wizard is at high level. For example, being able to twin Dominate Person does not come online until 10th level, Twin Ottos Dance-11th level, Twin Dominate Monster 15th level. Twin Silvery Barbs AT WILL does not come into play until 18th level. Treantmonk did not consider such things in his ranking because it is focused on low levels. In addition he also did not consider race. [/QUOTE]
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