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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3499219" data-attributes="member: 35788">I'm sorry, but I have to throw up an argument at this point.&nbsp; Fortunately, I don't think that my argument contradicts anything that has been already said, because I believe my condition is assumed by the OP and thus the need wasn't felt to be said.&nbsp; However, anytime anyone offers up and unarguable assertion that fun is the number one unarguable point to D&amp;D I have to offer up this exception:D&amp;D which is harmful to another person - whether physically, emotionally, mentally, or even spiritually - is still a form of abuse, even if the person who is playing the D&amp;D is having fun.That is my exception.&nbsp; So long as nobody is being harmed physically, emotionally, mentally, or spiritualy then I concur.&nbsp; Fun is paramount to &quot;playing the game right.&quot;&nbsp; If, however, someone is being harmed in any of those four categories then I don't care if you are having fun or not - the game is being played wrong because then it is no longer a game.&nbsp; It is abuse.Having said that, I agree with the OP.&nbsp; My exception stated above is typically an assumption that most people agree upon and thus often not stated.&nbsp; So long as we all agree to that point, then please let the &quot;fun parade&quot; begin, and I'm all for it.&nbsp; Fun takes precedence over &quot;right way.&quot;In my heirarchy it goes like this:1. Safe Gaming Environment (Absolute #1, nothing breaks this)2. If we are having fun and condition 1 is being met, we're okay.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 3499219, member: 35788"] I'm sorry, but I have to throw up an argument at this point. Fortunately, I don't think that my argument contradicts anything that has been already said, because I believe my condition is assumed by the OP and thus the need wasn't felt to be said. However, anytime anyone offers up and unarguable assertion that fun is the number one unarguable point to D&D I have to offer up this exception: D&D which is harmful to another person - whether physically, emotionally, mentally, or even spiritually - is still a form of abuse, even if the person who is playing the D&D is having fun. That is my exception. So long as nobody is being harmed physically, emotionally, mentally, or spiritualy then I concur. Fun is paramount to "playing the game right." If, however, someone is being harmed in any of those four categories then I don't care if you are having fun or not - the game is being played wrong because then it is no longer a game. It is abuse. Having said that, I agree with the OP. My exception stated above is typically an assumption that most people agree upon and thus often not stated. So long as we all agree to that point, then please let the "fun parade" begin, and I'm all for it. Fun takes precedence over "right way." In my heirarchy it goes like this: 1. Safe Gaming Environment (Absolute #1, nothing breaks this) 2. If we are having fun and condition 1 is being met, we're okay. [/QUOTE]

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