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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6773804" data-attributes="member: 22779">Yes, but there's no bonuses to damage related to my attack roll is there?  In fact, given the situation you are talking about, it's possible for the two of us to do the same damage.But, that's my point.  It doesn't matter what our respective levels are, what are respective attack bonuses are or whether I'm trained in that dagger and you're a grand master with that great sword.  We both hit and we both do damage.  The damage we do has zero to do with our attack roll, and also zero to do with our respective skill with our weapons.  If the target has an AC of 16 and we both score 16, then we both hit and we both deal damage.  There's no difference.OTOH, for skill checks, I would certainly give more information for the higher roll.  Presumably, eventually anyway, my proficiency bonus will be higher than your ability bonus.  Thus, I can do things you can't.  But, varying results for the same DC means that the DC has no actual meaning.  And that's very much not how 5e works.  A DC 15 lock is a DC 15 lock, regardless of who's picking it.  Remembering that trolls are affected by fire is a DC X check, again, regardless of who is doing the checking.  The DC's in the game are meant to reflect the reality of that game world.  When you start varying results based on who is doing the check, the system is very much not designed for that.And, where does it stop.  Is my untrained 15 Jump check different than your trained 15 jump check?  Do we climb walls at different speeds?  If the trained guy opens the lock faster, why can't my trained guy climb faster?  Two characters are searching for tracks and one has Survival trained, but both have the same final bonus.  What does that mean? 5e skill DC's have an objective meaning in the game world.  Doing X is DC Y.  When you start varying the result, as [MENTION=5834]Celtavian[/MENTION] suggests, then what does that actually mean?  I don't do less damage when I roll the same to hit as you do regardless of bonus.  I don't take more damage when I roll the same saving throw as you do even if I'm making an untrained save.  Does my character become less stealthy with the same roll as your character, despite having identical Stealth rolls?  I see this as a very, very deep rabbit hole to jump down, if you want to keep the meaning of skill rolls consistent.  If consistency is not a concern, then, by all means, go ahead.  But, no edition of D&D ever did this.  I'm not sure why I should start now.</blockquote>

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