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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Olaf the Stout" data-source="post: 6779373" data-attributes="member: 13703">I still haven't played a 5E game yet (we're waiting until our current 3.5E campaign wraps up before starting a 5E campaign).  However, I am looking forward to bounded accuracy as a DM.At the moment I am playing, rather than running.  My Wizard PC has saves of Fort +11/Ref +13/Will +11.  On top of that, the Cleric casts Mass Conviction on the party at the first sign of combat, giving us all an additional +4 Morale bonus to all saves.So, unless I auto-fail on a 1, my lowest saves are Fort 17/19/17 and I haven't even tried to min/max my character to optimise his saves.  He is a fairly basic Wiz 8/Loremaster 4 (because no-one is a straight Wiz 20 in 3.5E! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />).Last session the only save I failed was when I rolled a 3 and copped 6 Con damage from a poison.  The other saves I made included rolls of 5 and a 7.  There have been previous sessions where I've needed to roll 14+ to make a save, but they are the exception more than the rule.  My fellow PCs are largely the same, with failed saves being the exception, more so than the rule.So I'm definitely looking forward to playing 5E and having mid-level characters actually feel threatened when they need to make a saving throw.</blockquote>

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