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<blockquote data-quote="bmcdaniel" data-source="post: 6780977" data-attributes="member: 1772"><p>While, I can't disagree that this is probably the best way to approach things most of the time, I think sometimes, it is appropriate for the DM to take into consideration things that are "on the character sheet" and "in the background." And I can't imagine that, at some point, you wouldn't break down and agree.</p><p></p><p>Let me pose another example. Suppose the PCs are trying to jump high and pressing a small button on the ceiling of a room that is 15 feet high. You call for an Athletics check to simulate the combined difficulty of jumping high and touching the small button in mid-jump (from the Player's Handbook: "In some circumstances, your DM might allow you to make a Strength (Athletics) check to jump higher than you normally can.")</p><p></p><p>Would you really say that the DC (or alternatively the bonus) is the same for all of the following PCs:</p><p></p><p>* A 3 foot tall halfling.</p><p></p><p>* A 12 foot tall ogre.</p><p></p><p>* A bullywug (Note that the bullywug has the special ability: "Standing Leap. The bullywug's long jump is up to 20 feet and its high jump is up to 10 feet, with or without a running start").</p><p></p><p></p><p>* A PC wearing boots of striding and springing (Note that the description of the boots says: "you can jump three times the normal distance, though you can't jump</p><p>farther than your remaining movement would allow").</p><p></p><p>* A PC who is using a 10 foot pole (written as equipment on his character sheet) to try to press the button with a relatively short jump.</p><p></p><p>* A PC using the gust cantrip to give himself an extra boost at the same time he makes his Athletics check (this actually happened in the last adventure I ran)</p><p></p><p>* A PC using a levitate spell to lift himself 8 feet in the air (but no more than 8 feet because he doesn't want to make it too easy)</p><p></p><p></p><p>* A PC whose character background includes the statement: "As a young child, Jack's legs were severely mangled in a crocodile attack. Although he is quite strong, all his strength is in his upper body and his legs are very weak." </p><p></p><p>* A PC whose background includes the following statement: "Mary is a champion basket ball player, particularly well-known for being able to jump high and dunk the ball."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bmcdaniel, post: 6780977, member: 1772"] While, I can't disagree that this is probably the best way to approach things most of the time, I think sometimes, it is appropriate for the DM to take into consideration things that are "on the character sheet" and "in the background." And I can't imagine that, at some point, you wouldn't break down and agree. Let me pose another example. Suppose the PCs are trying to jump high and pressing a small button on the ceiling of a room that is 15 feet high. You call for an Athletics check to simulate the combined difficulty of jumping high and touching the small button in mid-jump (from the Player's Handbook: "In some circumstances, your DM might allow you to make a Strength (Athletics) check to jump higher than you normally can.") Would you really say that the DC (or alternatively the bonus) is the same for all of the following PCs: * A 3 foot tall halfling. * A 12 foot tall ogre. * A bullywug (Note that the bullywug has the special ability: "Standing Leap. The bullywug's long jump is up to 20 feet and its high jump is up to 10 feet, with or without a running start"). * A PC wearing boots of striding and springing (Note that the description of the boots says: "you can jump three times the normal distance, though you can't jump farther than your remaining movement would allow"). * A PC who is using a 10 foot pole (written as equipment on his character sheet) to try to press the button with a relatively short jump. * A PC using the gust cantrip to give himself an extra boost at the same time he makes his Athletics check (this actually happened in the last adventure I ran) * A PC using a levitate spell to lift himself 8 feet in the air (but no more than 8 feet because he doesn't want to make it too easy) * A PC whose character background includes the statement: "As a young child, Jack's legs were severely mangled in a crocodile attack. Although he is quite strong, all his strength is in his upper body and his legs are very weak." * A PC whose background includes the following statement: "Mary is a champion basket ball player, particularly well-known for being able to jump high and dunk the ball." [/QUOTE]
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