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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8610599" data-attributes="member: 6877472">You know, I don't think I ever said I think the game is bad quality because it doesn't do what I want.&nbsp; I just wish it did.&nbsp; If I'm somehow conveying that impression, I don't really see it, but please, just take it from me, I'm not attacking the quality of the game.&nbsp; I'm not telling people that they are wrong.&nbsp; I'm simply saying &quot;I don't see why X is true and Y is false&quot;.That's it.&nbsp; That's all.&nbsp; There's no ulterior motive.&nbsp; This isn't a thread about trying to somehow undermine the game.&nbsp; I felt like I was led to believe that &quot;bounded accuracy&quot; meant one thing, and saw what seemed to be discrepancies.So I questioned them.&nbsp; That's how critical thinking works- you ask questions.&nbsp; I'm not defining quality, I'm trying to define quality for me and those who might have similar feelings to me.&nbsp; Point to any time I said &quot;you shouldn't play 5e&quot;.&nbsp; I'll wait.&nbsp; Point to any time I said &quot;nobody should play this game because it sucks&quot;.&nbsp; I'll wait.If you pore over my posts, what you will see is frustration with WotC and how they built this game in such a way that is spawns endless arguments about how things are meant to work.&nbsp; That there is no consensus where two people who run different styles of games can look at a given rules element and say &quot;so is this like this, or is this like that?&quot;.&nbsp; That in many cases, they didn't complete the game, and left it up to the players. And how at one point, that confused me, because why leave a game mostly finished, and then say &quot;hey you can figure this out on your own&quot; and ask people to pay for that privilege?&nbsp; Or why people feel empowered by 5e as DM's because they can change things. Which has been true in every version of D&amp;D ever, as thousands upon thousands of pages of house rules for various campaigns totally exist.My questioning of these things can't possibly detract from your enjoyment of the game.&nbsp; How could it?&nbsp; If you like things a certain way, you say so.&nbsp; And you have.&nbsp; But that I don't immediately go &quot;ah, yes, of course, I see now, it's liked so I am in error&quot; is an attack on your enjoyment?&nbsp; Your fun?I'm just a guy on the internet.&nbsp; I have an opinion, just like everyone else does.&nbsp; If you don't agree with my opinion, that's perfectly fine.&nbsp; My opinion can't hurt anyone!And if you think it can, well, that's a very unique point of view.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8610599, member: 6877472"] You know, I don't think I ever said I think the game is bad quality because it doesn't do what I want. I just wish it did. If I'm somehow conveying that impression, I don't really see it, but please, just take it from me, I'm not attacking the quality of the game. I'm not telling people that they are wrong. I'm simply saying "I don't see why X is true and Y is false". That's it. That's all. There's no ulterior motive. This isn't a thread about trying to somehow undermine the game. I felt like I was led to believe that "bounded accuracy" meant one thing, and saw what seemed to be discrepancies. So I questioned them. That's how critical thinking works- you ask questions. I'm not defining quality, I'm trying to define quality for me and those who might have similar feelings to me. Point to any time I said "you shouldn't play 5e". I'll wait. Point to any time I said "nobody should play this game because it sucks". I'll wait. If you pore over my posts, what you will see is frustration with WotC and how they built this game in such a way that is spawns endless arguments about how things are meant to work. That there is no consensus where two people who run different styles of games can look at a given rules element and say "so is this like this, or is this like that?". That in many cases, they didn't complete the game, and left it up to the players. And how at one point, that confused me, because why leave a game mostly finished, and then say "hey you can figure this out on your own" and ask people to pay for that privilege? Or why people feel empowered by 5e as DM's because they can change things. Which has been true in every version of D&D ever, as thousands upon thousands of pages of house rules for various campaigns totally exist. My questioning of these things can't possibly detract from [B]your[/B] enjoyment of the game. How could it? If you like things a certain way, you say so. And you have. But that I don't immediately go "ah, yes, of course, I see now, it's liked so I am in error" is an [B]attack[/B] on your enjoyment? Your fun? I'm just a guy on the internet. I have an opinion, just like everyone else does. If you don't agree with my opinion, that's perfectly fine. My opinion can't hurt anyone! And if you think it can, well, that's a very unique point of view. [/QUOTE]

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