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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8617958" data-attributes="member: 22779">[USER=714]@frog[/USER] Reaver - I'd say that tracking information like this will tell you rather a lot about that specific group.&nbsp; Tracking across various campaigns will tell you even more about that specific group.&nbsp; See, to me, I don't care about any else's group.&nbsp; I've seen far too many &quot;Oh this is broken&quot; or &quot;5e is D&amp;D on easy mode&quot; type arguments to think that what happens at someone else's table even remotely resembles what happens at mine.Theorycrafting assumes too much.&nbsp; Sure, it's a great start to give you a direction for what you need to look at, but, by and large, I find theorycrafting very pointless.&nbsp; It simply will not predict what happens.But, I totally agree that a single encounter or even a single day will tell you anything useful.&nbsp; I did say that you should track about 20 rounds of combat.&nbsp; More if you like.&nbsp; I find 20 to be decent enough that it shows general trends.&nbsp; But, absolutely it's only showing general trends for that specific group.But, trends for a specific group is far, far more useful to that group than theorycrafting which tries to make general statements based on nothing more than hypotheticals.&nbsp; I mean, heck, you talk about 300 foot darkvision being an issue. Why?&nbsp; IME, it's almost impossible for encounters at that range.&nbsp; There's never sight lines out that far, for one.&nbsp; For another, I almost never see any combat starting at that kind of range unless maybe the PC's were deliberately hunting something.&nbsp; I can't imagine that actually having any impact at my table.&nbsp; It just wouldn't.&nbsp; But, OTOH, at other tables, maybe it would.&nbsp; Again, that's why I'm such a big proponent of empirical evidence over theory.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8617958, member: 22779"] [USER=714]@frog[/USER] Reaver - I'd say that tracking information like this will tell you rather a lot about that specific group. Tracking across various campaigns will tell you even more about that specific group. See, to me, I don't care about any else's group. I've seen far too many "Oh this is broken" or "5e is D&D on easy mode" type arguments to think that what happens at someone else's table even remotely resembles what happens at mine. Theorycrafting assumes too much. Sure, it's a great start to give you a direction for what you need to look at, but, by and large, I find theorycrafting very pointless. It simply will not predict what happens. But, I totally agree that a single encounter or even a single day will tell you anything useful. I did say that you should track about 20 rounds of combat. More if you like. I find 20 to be decent enough that it shows general trends. But, absolutely it's only showing general trends for that specific group. But, trends for a specific group is far, far more useful to that group than theorycrafting which tries to make general statements based on nothing more than hypotheticals. I mean, heck, you talk about 300 foot darkvision being an issue. Why? IME, it's almost impossible for encounters at that range. There's never sight lines out that far, for one. For another, I almost never see any combat starting at that kind of range unless maybe the PC's were deliberately hunting something. I can't imagine that actually having any impact at my table. It just wouldn't. But, OTOH, at other tables, maybe it would. Again, that's why I'm such a big proponent of empirical evidence over theory. [/QUOTE]

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