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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 4560554" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>Oh, sure - but I think there is a level of difficulty in judging something which has a significant portion of material you already are set against. But fair enough on not claiming it was a review, and I certainly don't want to say you aren't entitled to declaring your own opinion on the book!</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Well, sure - but if they posted that detailed an entry for every one of the 'famous dragons' mentioned in the book, it would take up another 100-200 pages!</p><p> </p><p>Even comparing it to the detailed entries in the Dragon Hall of Fame, the Daurgothoth article is nearly triple their length. Including that much detail would mean going from 8 such entries to only 2-3. Personally, I'd prefer it as it is, where each entry gets a write-up with more than enough information to be of use, but no so much that other material has to be cut out for it.</p><p> </p><p>Now, if they were to do a similar write-up as an article in an issue of Dragon, I'd find that perfectly fine - and I see that as the logical place for such in-depth entries, in all honesty. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Not sure, don't recall seeing it in there - I think one of the rituals in the book has something to do with this, but I don't recall it involving detailed rules for true names. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Is it really needed to get into that much detail? Sure, yes, it is part of the dragon's story. But we aren't dealing with a novel - we are presenting a product for use in the game. How much does that extra information add? </p><p>Does it really help to have the following:</p><p> </p><p>DC 25 Lore: Cyan nearly destroyed an elven nation through trickery and deceit, manipulating its king into using a powerful magic item to protect his nation, and instead the elven nation was nearly destroyed until some champions of the gods stopped Cyan's plans. </p><p>DC 30: Cyan later nearly destroyed the same elven nation through trickery and deceit, manipulating its king into using power magic to protect his nation, and instead the elven nation was nearly destroyed until some champions of the gods stopped Cyan's plans. </p><p> </p><p>And let's be really honest - even if you would prefer that information be added, is it really <em>butchering</em> his fluff by not including it? Is the dragon's character somehow completely lost because they only included the core fluff of his background?</p><p> </p><p>Heck, didn't the story you are referring to end in his death? Maybe they didn't include it because they wanted to present Cyan Bloodbane in all his original glory, rather than having him show back up as a dracolich or the like? I certainly don't see how that hurts the game in any way. </p><p> </p><p>As for the picture, I think its awesome. I'm sorry you dislike a dragon looking remotely distinctive, but I think the Fu Manchu tentacle look is absolutely perfect for his personality.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 4560554, member: 61155"] Oh, sure - but I think there is a level of difficulty in judging something which has a significant portion of material you already are set against. But fair enough on not claiming it was a review, and I certainly don't want to say you aren't entitled to declaring your own opinion on the book! Well, sure - but if they posted that detailed an entry for every one of the 'famous dragons' mentioned in the book, it would take up another 100-200 pages! Even comparing it to the detailed entries in the Dragon Hall of Fame, the Daurgothoth article is nearly triple their length. Including that much detail would mean going from 8 such entries to only 2-3. Personally, I'd prefer it as it is, where each entry gets a write-up with more than enough information to be of use, but no so much that other material has to be cut out for it. Now, if they were to do a similar write-up as an article in an issue of Dragon, I'd find that perfectly fine - and I see that as the logical place for such in-depth entries, in all honesty. Not sure, don't recall seeing it in there - I think one of the rituals in the book has something to do with this, but I don't recall it involving detailed rules for true names. Is it really needed to get into that much detail? Sure, yes, it is part of the dragon's story. But we aren't dealing with a novel - we are presenting a product for use in the game. How much does that extra information add? Does it really help to have the following: DC 25 Lore: Cyan nearly destroyed an elven nation through trickery and deceit, manipulating its king into using a powerful magic item to protect his nation, and instead the elven nation was nearly destroyed until some champions of the gods stopped Cyan's plans. DC 30: Cyan later nearly destroyed the same elven nation through trickery and deceit, manipulating its king into using power magic to protect his nation, and instead the elven nation was nearly destroyed until some champions of the gods stopped Cyan's plans. And let's be really honest - even if you would prefer that information be added, is it really [I]butchering[/I] his fluff by not including it? Is the dragon's character somehow completely lost because they only included the core fluff of his background? Heck, didn't the story you are referring to end in his death? Maybe they didn't include it because they wanted to present Cyan Bloodbane in all his original glory, rather than having him show back up as a dracolich or the like? I certainly don't see how that hurts the game in any way. As for the picture, I think its awesome. I'm sorry you dislike a dragon looking remotely distinctive, but I think the Fu Manchu tentacle look is absolutely perfect for his personality. [/QUOTE]
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