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<blockquote data-quote="Torranocca" data-source="post: 8582607" data-attributes="member: 7035401"><p>If you are looking for an argument, please move along. As I said, I have no dog in the fight. I simply don’t give weight to the claims as I know them to fail to mesh with reality. One can certainly claim their own understanding of events they were part of, that I can certainly grant to you.&nbsp; But to claim to know a thing to be true in a place and time you were not present is baffling. To claim to know what others thought or understood of a concept before you, is vacuous. Anyone is free to claim what ever credit they think is their due. Just leaves me unconvinced as I have experienced something completely different. Choose to die on that hill if it suits you but it is just shadow boxing an imagined opponent who is not there.Truth does not change, only perception. It’s all good! No harm no foul<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="👍" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" title="Thumbs up&nbsp; &nbsp; :thumbsup:" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🙏" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f64f.png" title="Folded hands&nbsp; &nbsp; :pray:" data-shortname=":pray:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Torranocca, post: 8582607, member: 7035401"] If you are looking for an argument, please move along. As I said, I have no dog in the fight. I simply don’t give weight to the claims as I know them to fail to mesh with reality. One can certainly claim their own understanding of events they were part of, that I can certainly grant to you. But to claim to know a thing to be true in a place and time you were not present is baffling. To claim to know what others thought or understood of a concept before you, is vacuous. Anyone is free to claim what ever credit they think is their due. Just leaves me unconvinced as I have experienced something completely different. Choose to die on that hill if it suits you but it is just shadow boxing an imagined opponent who is not there.Truth does not change, only perception. It’s all good! No harm no foul👍🙏 [/QUOTE]

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