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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bayushi Seikuro" data-source="post: 3279011" data-attributes="member: 23328">My two cents...It seems that so many gamers feel the predictions are completely dead wrong.Dancey has said before similiar things, and a lot of the business end of his predictions get lost.Hasbro controls Wizards. Hasbro will want to see results, and for Wotc to get Big Numbers, they will need a new edition - everyone (or a good chunk) will buy a 4e, even if only the corebooks.  How many people bought 3.5 corebooks and kept only the 3e splat? Hasbro doesn't understand small markets.  Hasbro works with numbers and bottom lines.  A similiar situation might be like the New Line cinema/Peter Jackson squabble right now.  PJ is saying NL cheated him out of money; they're saying, stop suing us; we've given you a quarter of a billion dollars.  Would Peter Jackson's Hobbit make money faster than they could print it?  Probably.  But in NL's analysis, it's not worth it.  I think it's similiar with Hasbro  etc -- they want their money now, not seeing that they can make tons of money spread out over years or decades selling quality splatbooks (not all the crud they've been releasing falls under that catergory btw).Someone made a comment about board games and people who design it having a stronger design sense; I call BS on that.  Board games, for the most part, are fire and forget weapons, as it were.  They hit or miss; yes, there are many brands and types of monopoly (Star Wars, etc), but they use these 'core rules'; when's the last expansion you've seen come out for Scrabble or Monopoly?I think Dancey is right in his perception of Hobby Stores, which he defines very clearly.  The FLGS myth we talk about here largely falls into the 'group of gamer friends open a business'.  I know friends who started a business just to get cheap deals on gaming stuff and it led to a business.  I feel there is a large chunk of Hobby Stores/gaming stores that are looking for the quick cash in; they see that X MtG card sells for a thousand dollars, and you have Y chance to get it; it's math to them, no interest in building relations with people.On another tangent, he's said before gaming won't die, but that we need to accept Hasbro, as a business, will see the pure numbers as being worthless.  That will be the best chance for small publishers to print things up, make new ideas.  I think that was the point of OGL - to make a common frame of reference for gamers to fall back on.   Look at what's happened since OGL -- we saw a glut of fairly useless books come out, but we saw a lot of high quality stuff come out.  Who's still in business?I ramble.  I feel gaming is like the arts; we all say we support the gaming industry, but when do we look at new items?  Or new systems?  I admit I'm guilty of it as well; I may buy 'interesting' non-d20/D&D stuff, but not as often as I'll buy something of immediate use.  It's like saying we support the arts, but refuse to visit galleries of sculptures, preferring paintings or orchestra.My two meager copper, wistfull scraped up off the floor.</blockquote>

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