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<blockquote data-quote="Justin" data-source="post: 2701966" data-attributes="member: 21262"><p>I read <u>Ilium</u> when it first came out and wasn't very impressed with it. When <u>Olympos</u> came out, I started rereading <u>Ilium</u> and just couldn't get through it. It had some interesting concepts, but I felt the characters were one-dimensional and that Mr. Simmons was trying too hard to recapture what he had with <u>Hyperion</u>. Plus the sex and violence were a major turnoff. And my tastes have changed as well. H and FoH were very military/political, while E and RoE were very religio-political.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't want this to devolve into a political thread, so suffice it to say that I'm not a big fan of the military and government and military fiction (well, most sci fi and fantasy) tends to glorify military and strong central governments. If you wish to comment on this opinion but can't do so civilly, feel free to PM me rather than PO the moderators.</p><p></p><p>As to science fiction versus fantasy, while I have generally preferred sf I'm not averse to fantasy. It's just that, in my experience and opinion, fantasy is usually poorly executed, cliche, and very contrived (fetch/destroy some object before the BBEG destroys the world). Science fiction in general isn't much better, though since my preference is mainly for hard sci fi, e.g. some of Alastair Reynolds, Greg Egan, and some early Greg Bear. And <u>Dune</u>. And <u>Neuromancer</u> (but <u>Pattern Recognition</u> was a waste of time).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I'm not really interested in deeply political stories, either. On the other hand, the handful of more libertarian/ancap fiction I've read were abyssmal: <u>The Probability Broach</u>, <u>Atlas Shrugged</u> and <u>Unintended Consequences</u> come to mind.</p><p></p><p>Here are some things I want in fiction: intelligent characters (good and bad), hazy morality (not black & white like most are), ethical dilemmas and lating consequences to characters' actions, epic scope, high magic (fantasy), hard science (sci fi).</p><p></p><p>Here are some other things I don't like: modern fantasy, historical fiction and alternate history, anything strongly based on Earth cultures (esp British/Victorian like <u>The Diamond Age</u>), time travel (never done well, though the first two Dragonlance trilogies, Chronicles and Legends, had potential if they weren't written for children), horror, romance and/or sex (I'm not prudish, I just don't care for those in my fiction).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justin, post: 2701966, member: 21262"] I read [u]Ilium[/u] when it first came out and wasn't very impressed with it. When [u]Olympos[/u] came out, I started rereading [u]Ilium[/u] and just couldn't get through it. It had some interesting concepts, but I felt the characters were one-dimensional and that Mr. Simmons was trying too hard to recapture what he had with [u]Hyperion[/u]. Plus the sex and violence were a major turnoff. And my tastes have changed as well. H and FoH were very military/political, while E and RoE were very religio-political. I don't want this to devolve into a political thread, so suffice it to say that I'm not a big fan of the military and government and military fiction (well, most sci fi and fantasy) tends to glorify military and strong central governments. If you wish to comment on this opinion but can't do so civilly, feel free to PM me rather than PO the moderators. As to science fiction versus fantasy, while I have generally preferred sf I'm not averse to fantasy. It's just that, in my experience and opinion, fantasy is usually poorly executed, cliche, and very contrived (fetch/destroy some object before the BBEG destroys the world). Science fiction in general isn't much better, though since my preference is mainly for hard sci fi, e.g. some of Alastair Reynolds, Greg Egan, and some early Greg Bear. And [u]Dune[/u]. And [u]Neuromancer[/u] (but [u]Pattern Recognition[/u] was a waste of time). Again, I'm not really interested in deeply political stories, either. On the other hand, the handful of more libertarian/ancap fiction I've read were abyssmal: [u]The Probability Broach[/u], [u]Atlas Shrugged[/u] and [u]Unintended Consequences[/u] come to mind. Here are some things I want in fiction: intelligent characters (good and bad), hazy morality (not black & white like most are), ethical dilemmas and lating consequences to characters' actions, epic scope, high magic (fantasy), hard science (sci fi). Here are some other things I don't like: modern fantasy, historical fiction and alternate history, anything strongly based on Earth cultures (esp British/Victorian like [u]The Diamond Age[/u]), time travel (never done well, though the first two Dragonlance trilogies, Chronicles and Legends, had potential if they weren't written for children), horror, romance and/or sex (I'm not prudish, I just don't care for those in my fiction). [/QUOTE]
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