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<blockquote data-quote="JDillard" data-source="post: 4409054" data-attributes="member: 67649">So, now that we've had a chance to see the new stealth rules, I've seen some confusion about what sort of action it takes to notice someone who's hidden in combat.&nbsp;A lot of people have been saying it's a Standard action, as per the Perception rules on pg. 186.&nbsp; However, this appears to only apply to actively searching for objects or secrets.&nbsp; Here's why:&nbsp;On page 281 under &quot;Targeting What You Can't See&quot;, it specifically says that &quot;On your turn you can make an active perception check as a minor action, comparing the result to the concealed creature's last stealth check.&nbsp; If you win, you know the direction to the creature's location, or its exact location if if you beat it by 10 or more.&quot; (emphasis mine)&nbsp;This has not been contradicted by any other errata or change that I've found.&nbsp; It is specific to targetting hidden things with an attack, so has its own rules in the combat section, rather than under Perception, it appears.&nbsp;I've seen the &quot;Standard action&quot; answer quite a few times now, and just thought I'd mention this.&nbsp; Hopefully this helps, I have a feeling people are just getting cross-reference problems and didn't notice the combat part.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JDillard, post: 4409054, member: 67649"] So, now that we've had a chance to see the new stealth rules, I've seen some confusion about what sort of action it takes to notice someone who's hidden in combat. A lot of people have been saying it's a Standard action, as per the Perception rules on pg. 186. However, this appears to only apply to actively searching for objects or secrets. Here's why: On page 281 under "Targeting What You Can't See", it specifically says that "On your turn you can make an active perception check as a [b]minor action[/b], comparing the result to the concealed creature's last stealth check. If you win, you know the direction to the creature's location, or its exact location if if you beat it by 10 or more." (emphasis mine) This has not been contradicted by any other errata or change that I've found. It is specific to targetting hidden things with an attack, so has its own rules in the combat section, rather than under Perception, it appears. I've seen the "Standard action" answer quite a few times now, and just thought I'd mention this. Hopefully this helps, I have a feeling people are just getting cross-reference problems and didn't notice the combat part. [/QUOTE]

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