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<blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 5366664" data-attributes="member: 23977"><p>Those are in the RC. They're expanded on in the DM's Kit sure, but the actual rules are in the RC.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again since the rules are in the other books, I'm saying it's pretty much a good buy maybe, and a good idea, but by no means "necessary."</p><p></p><p>Whether or not it's inferior to the old DMG is... subjective.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's easier to get into for more reasons outside of the rules.</p><p></p><p>Less for a single person to have to buy.</p><p></p><p>Clear avenues of explanation as to what is available/needed for a store to carry.</p><p></p><p>Clear avenue/explanation as to what products match your "place" in the game.</p><p></p><p>Easy to use products filled with everything needed to use them. (IE the box has the adventure, the maps, the tokens...)</p><p></p><p>Nothing to do with marketing "lies," and everything to do with what they've actually done.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You get more for your money for starters, and we're still disagreeing on how needed the DM's kit is.</p><p></p><p>And again I said- it depends on how you want to get into it. You can get into it very inexpensively, or spend a lot on it. They've opened it up, to let you customize a lot more.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No... I haven't. I'm sorry you feel you have.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Doesn't bother me</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is subjective opinion. You're welcome to any opinion you want. You dislike the content they are providing you. This isn't "screwing you" or me, or anyone else. It's just that you don't like the ontent. It's not like they're sitting on "better" content twisting their evil mustaches and laughing as they release inferior content for some reason. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We can get into an argument about this in another thread... Suffice it to say I preffer the model that submits updates rather then ignoring them until the system overloads and they have to reset to a new edition.</p><p></p><p>If this update process keeps us from a new edition down the road- yay!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's your right... It's probably not the game for you. It's a taste thing. Some would rather the game be released and that be it. Others want the problems tracked/updated.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What's that have to do with anything?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure... but keeping an eye open and actively fearing are two different things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, be aware of the bus... That's fine and rational. But fearing it's going to hit you because it exists when it hasn't run any red lights, the driver is alert, and the brakes work... is irrational.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who's doing that? I'm presenting evidence to show where I'm coming from. No mindlessness involved.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing about subscription model. I was talking about digital only model.</p><p></p><p>I think we are at an "impasse."</p><p></p><p>I get tired of statements like "mindless apologizing" being applied to anything that isn't painting WoTC in a negative light.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scribble, post: 5366664, member: 23977"] Those are in the RC. They're expanded on in the DM's Kit sure, but the actual rules are in the RC. Again since the rules are in the other books, I'm saying it's pretty much a good buy maybe, and a good idea, but by no means "necessary." Whether or not it's inferior to the old DMG is... subjective. It's easier to get into for more reasons outside of the rules. Less for a single person to have to buy. Clear avenues of explanation as to what is available/needed for a store to carry. Clear avenue/explanation as to what products match your "place" in the game. Easy to use products filled with everything needed to use them. (IE the box has the adventure, the maps, the tokens...) Nothing to do with marketing "lies," and everything to do with what they've actually done. You get more for your money for starters, and we're still disagreeing on how needed the DM's kit is. And again I said- it depends on how you want to get into it. You can get into it very inexpensively, or spend a lot on it. They've opened it up, to let you customize a lot more. No... I haven't. I'm sorry you feel you have. Doesn't bother me This is subjective opinion. You're welcome to any opinion you want. You dislike the content they are providing you. This isn't "screwing you" or me, or anyone else. It's just that you don't like the ontent. It's not like they're sitting on "better" content twisting their evil mustaches and laughing as they release inferior content for some reason. We can get into an argument about this in another thread... Suffice it to say I preffer the model that submits updates rather then ignoring them until the system overloads and they have to reset to a new edition. If this update process keeps us from a new edition down the road- yay! That's your right... It's probably not the game for you. It's a taste thing. Some would rather the game be released and that be it. Others want the problems tracked/updated. What's that have to do with anything? Sure... but keeping an eye open and actively fearing are two different things. Sure, be aware of the bus... That's fine and rational. But fearing it's going to hit you because it exists when it hasn't run any red lights, the driver is alert, and the brakes work... is irrational. Who's doing that? I'm presenting evidence to show where I'm coming from. No mindlessness involved. Nothing about subscription model. I was talking about digital only model. I think we are at an "impasse." I get tired of statements like "mindless apologizing" being applied to anything that isn't painting WoTC in a negative light. [/QUOTE]
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