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<blockquote data-quote="Greenstone.Walker" data-source="post: 7686587" data-attributes="member: 6788312"><p>I think the separation of weapon attacks makes sense, because there are different modifiers applying to the rolls.</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><u>Weapon</u></td><td><u>Attack Roll</u></td><td><u>Damage Roll</u></td></tr><tr><td>Unarmed strike</td><td>Proficiency mod + STR mod</td><td>STR mod</td></tr><tr><td>Improvised weapon (includes shield)</td><td>STR mod only¹</td><td>STR mod</td></tr><tr><td>Actual weapon, proficient</td><td>Proficiency mod + STR or DEX mod</td><td>STR or DEX mod</td></tr></table><p>¹ Tavern Brawler lets you add your Proficiency mod.</p><p></p><p>As for whether sneak attack works with unarmed strikes, I note that there aren't any bludgeoning finesse weapons, so you could make the argument that unarmed strikes might be a weapon, but it isn't a finesse weapon, so it doesn't work with sneak attack. On the other hand, sneak attack works with a sling, which does do bludgeoning damage. You could argue that the skill needed to aim a sling stone into a vulnerable point of a target is more than the skill needed to aim a knuckle into the same point, so sneak attack should apply to unarmed strikes. </p><p></p><p>Allowing sneak attack with unarmed strikes does make a disarmed rogue much more dangerous than a disarmed fighter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenstone.Walker, post: 7686587, member: 6788312"] I think the separation of weapon attacks makes sense, because there are different modifiers applying to the rolls. [TABLE="width: 500"][TR][TD][U]Weapon[/U][/TD][TD][U]Attack Roll[/U][/TD][TD][U]Damage Roll[/U][/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Unarmed strike[/TD][TD]Proficiency mod + STR mod[/TD][TD]STR mod[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Improvised weapon (includes shield)[/TD][TD]STR mod only¹[/TD][TD]STR mod[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Actual weapon, proficient[/TD][TD]Proficiency mod + STR or DEX mod[/TD][TD]STR or DEX mod[/TD][/TR][/TABLE]¹ Tavern Brawler lets you add your Proficiency mod. As for whether sneak attack works with unarmed strikes, I note that there aren't any bludgeoning finesse weapons, so you could make the argument that unarmed strikes might be a weapon, but it isn't a finesse weapon, so it doesn't work with sneak attack. On the other hand, sneak attack works with a sling, which does do bludgeoning damage. You could argue that the skill needed to aim a sling stone into a vulnerable point of a target is more than the skill needed to aim a knuckle into the same point, so sneak attack should apply to unarmed strikes. Allowing sneak attack with unarmed strikes does make a disarmed rogue much more dangerous than a disarmed fighter. [/QUOTE]
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