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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7687993" data-attributes="member: 16814">Cool.&nbsp; Do you see how attacks are resolved?Where does it say they can't surprise you?&nbsp; The only rule on when you're surprised is that the DM determines it.Also, if you're strict reading, you couldn't ever use a reaction against a trap because you're not in initiative, and you can't do those things outside of initiative, right?&nbsp; They're resolved exactly like an attack from a hostile creature. You look under 'making an attack' in the 'combat' chapter to find out how to do so for either.&nbsp; You determine the target, determine the modifiers, and resolve the attack.No, it's the rules forum.&nbsp; RAI is nice, but not necessary.&nbsp; Also, there's nothing in RAW or RAI that says you can't make an attack outside of initiative, so that would be your house rule?Well, thank goodness.&nbsp; But I'm saying that you can stay within RAW and read it a different way than you have.&nbsp; The rules of this editions are loose for a reason, and that's to prevent exactly the kind of RAW one-true-wayism going on here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7687993, member: 16814"] Cool. Do you see how attacks are resolved? Where does it say they can't surprise you? The only rule on when you're surprised is that the DM determines it. Also, if you're strict reading, you couldn't ever use a reaction against a trap because you're not in initiative, and you can't do those things outside of initiative, right? They're resolved exactly like an attack from a hostile creature. You look under 'making an attack' in the 'combat' chapter to find out how to do so for either. You determine the target, determine the modifiers, and resolve the attack. No, it's the rules forum. RAI is nice, but not necessary. Also, there's nothing in RAW or RAI that says you can't make an attack outside of initiative, so that would be your house rule? Well, thank goodness. But I'm saying that you can stay within RAW and read it a different way than you have. The rules of this editions are loose for a reason, and that's to prevent exactly the kind of RAW one-true-wayism going on here. [/QUOTE]

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