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<blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 5221776" data-attributes="member: 7533">&quot;Maybe I should be.&quot;Of course more often than not, those sorts of responses will come off as snarky, petty and vindictive.&nbsp; That won't help anything.In order to take care of a devious, manipulative player, you need to equally devious and manipulative in turn, but in a completely different style.The goal is to make said player look like an immature and ill-mannered lout who's only purpose is opposing the DM and disrupting the game.&nbsp; You take the moral high ground, and that gets the other players on your side.&nbsp; Then, even if you personally can't convince him to stop, eventually the other players will start backing you up.If you resort to simply trading insults and snide comments, then you end up looking no better than the other guy and the players will never take you or your complaints seriously.For more, read Macchiavelli's The Prince, and Sun Tzu's The Art of War.&nbsp; Not only will they help you handle the rough players, but they'll give you some good advice for your Evil Overlord NPCs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pbartender, post: 5221776, member: 7533"] "Maybe I should be." Of course more often than not, those sorts of responses will come off as snarky, petty and vindictive. That won't help anything. In order to take care of a devious, manipulative player, you need to equally devious and manipulative in turn, but in a completely different style. The goal is to make said player look like an immature and ill-mannered lout who's only purpose is opposing the DM and disrupting the game. You take the moral high ground, and that gets the other players on your side. Then, even if you personally can't convince him to stop, eventually the other players will start backing you up. If you resort to simply trading insults and snide comments, then you end up looking no better than the other guy and the players will never take you or your complaints seriously. For more, read Macchiavelli's [I]The Prince[/I], and Sun Tzu's [I]The Art of War[/I]. Not only will they help you handle the rough players, but they'll give you some good advice for your Evil Overlord NPCs. [/QUOTE]

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