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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Forlorn" data-source="post: 26470" data-attributes="member: 732">Valorian, what is your source for the above quote?  I am a history buff and the Renaissance is my time period of choice.  From all my research, and I have a pile of books sitting here I can quote to you if you'd like, the above statement is blatantly wrong.  For on the rapier developed during the sixteenth century, not the fifteenth.  Furthermore the use of a rapier to "thrust through the chinks in that armor" is not valid.  The rapier was a thrusting weapon which developed from the cut and thrust sword.  It was used primarily in unarmored civilian combat and saw very limited use on the battlefields.  The cut and thrust sword, which is similar to a rapier, having a wider cross section allowing for more varied us of the cut saw battlefield use, but mostly in the late 1540's and beyond when heavy armor is going out of style due to the cost, and its ineffectiveness versus the pike and arquebus.  As to a stilleto, yes you can punch through heavy armor with one but you would want to save this as a last resort since you need to be quite close to accomplish this.  The best defense against a person in full plate would be a war hammer or lucern hammer.  These weapons, which are essentially nothing more then a small hammer head on a longer then average pole, where for lack of a better term, can openers.  They were specifically designed to focus all the power generated from a swing onto a very small point, thereby generating tremendous force and punching through the armor.Sorry, weapon history lesson over now.</blockquote>

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