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Now I have the hankering to play a 2E game...
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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 8219795" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>I enjoy THAC0, I actually like it a LOT MORE than 5e's proficiency bonus which is the exact same no matter if you are a trained soldier that is also a sniper that can hit something half a mile away, or a book worm that apparantly can hit just as easily with a knife... (BLEH...I HATE how 5e's proficiency bonus gives the idea that everyone advances in how they can fight equally...the most unbelievable thing about 5e to me).</p><p></p><p>I enjoy THACO much more than the "Easier" method of doing BAB in 3.X edition. Supposedly adding is much easier...supposedly. However, with THAC0 normally it was calculate THAC0 out with other bonuses included once (STR+THAC0+Class skills) and then that's it. You subtract your enemies AC from it and roll over that.</p><p></p><p>With 3.X you do something similar to get your AB (BAB+STR or DEX+Class Bonus) but then you add after EVERY ROLL.</p><p></p><p>So...one math problem with subtraction during combat vs. 200,000,000+ infinite math problems...which is easier again??</p><p></p><p>I suppose in 3.x you could Take the AB from the AC of the creature to narrow it down to doing one math problem for that creature...but then...you are doing the exact same thing people complained about THAC0 with...you need to know how to subtract and according to THAC0 detractors...we know how hard THAT WAS...</p><p></p><p>That said, I can't say 2e is my favorite version of D&D, but I never had a problem with THAC0, but people keep complaining about it like I should have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 8219795, member: 4348"] I enjoy THAC0, I actually like it a LOT MORE than 5e's proficiency bonus which is the exact same no matter if you are a trained soldier that is also a sniper that can hit something half a mile away, or a book worm that apparantly can hit just as easily with a knife... (BLEH...I HATE how 5e's proficiency bonus gives the idea that everyone advances in how they can fight equally...the most unbelievable thing about 5e to me). I enjoy THACO much more than the "Easier" method of doing BAB in 3.X edition. Supposedly adding is much easier...supposedly. However, with THAC0 normally it was calculate THAC0 out with other bonuses included once (STR+THAC0+Class skills) and then that's it. You subtract your enemies AC from it and roll over that. With 3.X you do something similar to get your AB (BAB+STR or DEX+Class Bonus) but then you add after EVERY ROLL. So...one math problem with subtraction during combat vs. 200,000,000+ infinite math problems...which is easier again?? I suppose in 3.x you could Take the AB from the AC of the creature to narrow it down to doing one math problem for that creature...but then...you are doing the exact same thing people complained about THAC0 with...you need to know how to subtract and according to THAC0 detractors...we know how hard THAT WAS... That said, I can't say 2e is my favorite version of D&D, but I never had a problem with THAC0, but people keep complaining about it like I should have. [/QUOTE]
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