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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8220298" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>With all the restrictions on magic-users in TSR editions of D&amp;D, was there really a LFQW problem? Reading the AD&amp;D2E PHB it's kinda glaring just how much control over MU and cleric spells the DM has. The MU has to find or be given any spells, so pure DM fiat. Then they have to roll to actually learn the spells they find. Then there's hit points. MU cap out at a laughable 10d4, so 40 max, +2 per level after 10th. On the off chance a MU gets to 50 hit points, there's the massive damage rules. CON decreasing with each return to life. Spell research is basically DM fiat. Spellcasting being spoiled. INT-based spell level limits. INT-based max number of spells. Having to have the spellbook to memorize spells each day. How long it takes to memorize spells each day. Seriously, how did TSR wizards get a reputation for being absurdly OP? Or is that more of a WotC D&amp;D thing?</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8220298, member: 86653"] With all the restrictions on magic-users in TSR editions of D&D, was there really a LFQW problem? Reading the AD&D2E PHB it's kinda glaring just how much control over MU and cleric spells the DM has. The MU has to find or be given any spells, so pure DM fiat. Then they have to roll to actually learn the spells they find. Then there's hit points. MU cap out at a laughable 10d4, so 40 max, +2 per level after 10th. On the off chance a MU gets to 50 hit points, there's the massive damage rules. CON decreasing with each return to life. Spell research is basically DM fiat. Spellcasting being spoiled. INT-based spell level limits. INT-based max number of spells. Having to have the spellbook to memorize spells each day. How long it takes to memorize spells each day. Seriously, how did TSR wizards get a reputation for being absurdly OP? Or is that more of a WotC D&D thing? [/QUOTE]

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