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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 3584872" data-attributes="member: 22882">The only time I've run a game of straight D&D 3e (insofar as Spelljammer qualifies as 'straight D&D') was so I didn't have to convert world material for Spelljammer purposes.  With Saga looking easy to convert to, I would use that instead because it appears to be a much improved rulesset without the compatibility headaches I got from True20 and Mutants and Masterminds.Prior to that, I ran Basic D&D because it was the quickest, easiest game I could find, and AD&D 2e for the sake of Spelljammer - albeit fairly briefly.Nowadays, I'll *play* in a D&D 3.5 game, at least on a session-to-session basis, if that's what the local group is doing at the moment (although I'm at least as likely to go home and play a console game).  As a player, it's not egregious to me the way some other systems (AD&D) would be - mostly, I avoid D&D games because of setting issues rather than mechanical ones, although newer, less shackled games like d20 Modern and True20, and especially Mutants & Masterminds and Star Wars Saga, show how much room there is to upgrade within the d20 system.Certainly it wasn't the 3.5 rulesset or the d20 system that drove me away; both are better ways to play the same old D&D - I'm just not terribly fond of the same old D&D to begin with.  I'd rather play a D&D 3.5-based steampunk sci-fantasy game than a Star Wars Saga-based high/epic fantasy game full of D&Disms, for example, though I'd rather play a Saga-based steampunk sci-fantasy game than either. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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