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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4473348" data-attributes="member: 18280">Oh, no.  I assume that it is negligence.And, perhaps, you might consider that constantly denying that such negligence is ongoing (lots of stuff re: 4e launch has been ill-considered, and even WotC seems to now think so, judging by their new take on GSL [still in the box, I note], and Gleemax), you yourself are contributing to an overall ill-will. Whether you think it fair or not, it is a hell of a lot harder to let go of ill-will when you are told that the things you are upset about, in effect, "aren't real" than when they are acknowledged.  People also get fed up with the amount of ill-considered, marginally justified blinders-wearing that goes on.If you really want the ill-will to die down, the best response is acknowledgement, followed either by discussion as to how the problems can/should be addressed, or acknowledgement, followed by the acknowledgement that, even though those problems may exist, they don't particularly bother you.IMHO and IME, of course.Yelling "There's a pink elephant in the room!' when there is not is no more inciting, or nonsensical, than yelling "No there isn't!" when there is.  Having seen all sorts of posts defending whatever WotC does, whenever it does it, it seems reasonable (to me) to ask, as the OP does, just when, exactly, is it okay to say "enough is enough"?  When do we stop saying "Well, they didn't promise X, so it doesn't matter that they did not-X" and voice legitimate concerns over getting not-X instead of X.That's a fair question.  In my book at least.  Perhaps not in yours.Finally, while I certainly agree that "legalistic logic does not equate to reasonabilty, or ethics", that statement doesn't really have anything to do with negligence not being co-equal to evil (which actually is a statement to do with ethics, if not with reasonability).RC</blockquote>

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