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<blockquote data-quote="dirtypool" data-source="post: 8488593" data-attributes="member: 7033897"><p>The inconsistencies only exist if you ignore context and try to broadly apply a statement about one situation to all situations. Which is a bit disingenuous</p><p></p><p>In response to the idea of licensing out the TSR logo to another company to create TTRPG content. Where indeed, as I’ve now explained four times, it would create brand confusion between two companies producing similar content.</p><p></p><p>It is not what they just did for Weiss and Hickman. Del Rey press is not publishing a TTRPG book, it’s a novel. WOTC isn’t publishing novels, so there is no confusion over which brand is producing the content. Can you not see the difference between two companies making game content and one company licensing out their own brand for long form Fiction?</p><p></p><p>They literally are not. One is one the cover of a traditionally printed novel in a bookstore, hoping the nostalgia of the logo will convince you to buy the book. The other is in an archival reprint wherein you won’t even see the logo until you have already purchased the product.</p><p></p><p>You aren’t doing a whole lot to convince me that you’re all that knowledgeable either given your argument that a new Dragonlance novel and a 2e module are identical use cases.</p><p></p><p>There was no misunderstanding, I clarified something and you as someone who had USED that license should have known exactly what I meant.</p><p></p><p>Really? Where is WOTC publishing Dragonlance novels? Not adventure modules - novels. That’s what Weiss and Hickman are publishing; so WOTC would need to be doing the same.</p><p></p><p>It’s the same site, the same storefront. DM guilds books show up on the sent click through page, but since the TSR trade dress isn’t included in the graphic packages you can download for licensed usage I suspect any DMG creators content that uses it is probably something that slipped through a crack, and not something intentionally allowed.</p><p></p><p>Explained upthread how they aren’t using the logos the same way and the difference between TTRPG game content and long form Fiction. I’ve explained that in three posts now.</p><p></p><p>But the original logo isn’t on that cover.</p><p></p><p>But the book already did fall under that agreement and WOTC chose to use this “classic” logo. It is not the same as them giving joe blow nobody internet self publisher the TSR logo so they can publish Star Frontiers on WOTC’s behalf.</p><p></p><p>You suggested they give it to you</p><p></p><p>Again, no it isn’t</p><p></p><p>A thread on the forum is not hard to find, it’s also not a post by Weiss which is what you claimed was available</p><p></p><p>The article was, her Facebook wasn’t</p><p></p><p>Again as relates to this novel - no they aren’t</p><p></p><p>Which is for the 80th time different than what you proposed about letting DMG authors revise TSR content.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dirtypool, post: 8488593, member: 7033897"] The inconsistencies only exist if you ignore context and try to broadly apply a statement about one situation to all situations. Which is a bit disingenuous In response to the idea of licensing out the TSR logo to another company to create TTRPG content. Where indeed, as I’ve now explained four times, it would create brand confusion between two companies producing similar content. It is not what they just did for Weiss and Hickman. Del Rey press is not publishing a TTRPG book, it’s a novel. WOTC isn’t publishing novels, so there is no confusion over which brand is producing the content. Can you not see the difference between two companies making game content and one company licensing out their own brand for long form Fiction? They literally are not. One is one the cover of a traditionally printed novel in a bookstore, hoping the nostalgia of the logo will convince you to buy the book. The other is in an archival reprint wherein you won’t even see the logo until you have already purchased the product. You aren’t doing a whole lot to convince me that you’re all that knowledgeable either given your argument that a new Dragonlance novel and a 2e module are identical use cases. There was no misunderstanding, I clarified something and you as someone who had USED that license should have known exactly what I meant. Really? Where is WOTC publishing Dragonlance novels? Not adventure modules - novels. That’s what Weiss and Hickman are publishing; so WOTC would need to be doing the same. It’s the same site, the same storefront. DM guilds books show up on the sent click through page, but since the TSR trade dress isn’t included in the graphic packages you can download for licensed usage I suspect any DMG creators content that uses it is probably something that slipped through a crack, and not something intentionally allowed. Explained upthread how they aren’t using the logos the same way and the difference between TTRPG game content and long form Fiction. I’ve explained that in three posts now. But the original logo isn’t on that cover. But the book already did fall under that agreement and WOTC chose to use this “classic” logo. It is not the same as them giving joe blow nobody internet self publisher the TSR logo so they can publish Star Frontiers on WOTC’s behalf. You suggested they give it to you Again, no it isn’t A thread on the forum is not hard to find, it’s also not a post by Weiss which is what you claimed was available The article was, her Facebook wasn’t Again as relates to this novel - no they aren’t Which is for the 80th time different than what you proposed about letting DMG authors revise TSR content. [/QUOTE]
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