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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7002721" data-attributes="member: 6775031">As I said, if there are unknown factors which the characters aren't aware of, then you should tell the players that there must be unknown factors involved. Otherwise, it just looks like you're making nonsensical rulings because you're a bad DM (either malicious or incompetent).The DM has every bit as much right to arbitrarily let the ogre automatically succeed on a Perception or Nature check as they do to let it automatically succeed on an attack roll or saving throw. You could also just say that a wandering band of orcs automatically captures them and takes their stuff, because you think it would be fun to make an adventure out of them escaping. How well that goes over will depend on your particular group. In my experience, players learn to call the DM out when DMs try to cheat, and they become alert against such attempts due to past history with DMs who cheat. As a DM, you should avoid even the appearance of cheating, until you know your players well enough that they can trust you. Once you have their trust, it's okay to do things that look like cheating, and they'll give you the benefit of the doubt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 7002721, member: 6775031"] As I said, if there are unknown factors which the characters aren't aware of, then you should tell the players that there must be unknown factors involved. Otherwise, it just [I]looks like[/I] you're making nonsensical rulings because you're a bad DM (either malicious or incompetent). The DM has every bit as much right to arbitrarily let the ogre automatically succeed on a Perception or Nature check as they do to let it automatically succeed on an attack roll or saving throw. You could also just say that a wandering band of orcs automatically captures them and takes their stuff, because you think it would be fun to make an adventure out of them escaping. How well that goes over will depend on your particular group. In my experience, players learn to call the DM out when DMs try to cheat, and they become [I]alert[/I] against such attempts due to past history with DMs who cheat. As a DM, you should avoid even the [I]appearance[/I] of cheating, until you know your players well enough that they can [I]trust[/I] you. Once you have their trust, it's okay to do things that [I]look like[/I] cheating, and they'll give you the benefit of the doubt. [/QUOTE]

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