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<blockquote data-quote="CrashFiend82" data-source="post: 7003330" data-attributes="member: 6778742"><p>I think the more relevant question to ask is, how closely should the skill system try to model real world physics. The granularity necessary, would make for an intensely complicated rules system. If we are going to enjoy a system where we use a to hit vs. AC model to demonstrate all of the complexity of real world combat, are we doing a disservice to expect the ability check system to do so. I think I agree on the premise of what Nagol, or other posters may be saying. In that monsters and/or NPCs should follow the same chances of PCs. That would seem fair, otherwise it would be arbitrarily punishing the players for nothing more than story purposes. Going back to earlier postings about whether PCs know what exactly the characters can achieve from session 0, in most cases. Isn't that what part of the exploration portion of the game is partly modeling. When we set out to explore a DM's world or even a published one, isn't part of &quot;gaining&quot; experience the idea that the characters will interact with the world and generally come to figure out what is possible?</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="CrashFiend82, post: 7003330, member: 6778742"] I think the more relevant question to ask is, how closely should the skill system try to model real world physics. The granularity necessary, would make for an intensely complicated rules system. If we are going to enjoy a system where we use a to hit vs. AC model to demonstrate all of the complexity of real world combat, are we doing a disservice to expect the ability check system to do so. I think I agree on the premise of what Nagol, or other posters may be saying. In that monsters and/or NPCs should follow the same chances of PCs. That would seem fair, otherwise it would be arbitrarily punishing the players for nothing more than story purposes. Going back to earlier postings about whether PCs know what exactly the characters can achieve from session 0, in most cases. Isn't that what part of the exploration portion of the game is partly modeling. When we set out to explore a DM's world or even a published one, isn't part of "gaining" experience the idea that the characters will interact with the world and generally come to figure out what is possible? [/QUOTE]

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