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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9548180" data-attributes="member: 7026617">There's a certain all-or-nothing aspect to your statement here.  The Hero System has strong reasons to take Psychological Limitations, which, depending on the intensity taken, can have significant impact on "what the characters want" in a given situation, and in some cases mandate it (if you have the strongest version of acrophobia, what your character is going to overwhelmingly when confronted with a cliff edge is to get away from it, with the roll required meaning most of the time you're obligated to do just that.  But that doesn't effect all their decision making, just in that select area.  Similarly, if someone can make a Persuade check and convince your character that a course of action is a bad idea, that doesn't mean someone is constantly doing that or micromanaging everything.These are both strong (in the case of the phobia, very strong) influencers on character action, but I think characterizing them as "making the players unnecessary" is kind of hyperbolic.  At best you can say in those selective situations they do so, but that's not the same as the implications of it as a broad statement.(I also recognize the Phobia example is somewhat different than the Persuade one, since you got to choose to have the former, but there are still going to be potential cases where, when you choose one of the intensity I mentioned, the GM can respond to an action declaration by asking for a die roll you'll probably fail, and therefor not be allowed to choose that action).</blockquote>

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