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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9744309" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>...</p><p></p><p>So what you're saying is, no one ever can discuss anything. Because, since the only thing we know is always our own experiences, we cannot ever talk about anything other than that experience, and that experience is so utterly unique to each individual person it means absolutely nothing.</p><p></p><p>Right. So, I'm going to politely say no, screw that, because I believe in the purpose of a <em>forum</em>, namely, as a place to <em>discuss things.</em></p><p></p><p>I can only make arguments <em>from the basis of what I have experienced and witnessed.</em> I can't invent arguments on the basis of things I have <em>no evidence for.</em></p><p></p><p>You want to show me I'm wrong? Get statistics. Duelling anecdotes leaves us nowhere better than we were before. Show me <em>evidence</em> that 3PP are extremely common, such that (say) I have at least (say) a 2/3 chance of seeing the solution actually used, if I were to sign up for a new game tomorrow. Because even a poll of users on this forum, where folks seem to think 3PP is in wide use, players voted a <em>clear</em> plurality (40.4%) that they literally never get to use 3PP, and almost a majority (49.4%) were either "never" or "rarely". The idea that 3PP is a super common widely available thing that everyone is getting to see, use, and benefit from <em>simply doesn't bear out</em>. Even on a forum where 3PP should have had an enormous leg up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9744309, member: 6790260"] ... So what you're saying is, no one ever can discuss anything. Because, since the only thing we know is always our own experiences, we cannot ever talk about anything other than that experience, and that experience is so utterly unique to each individual person it means absolutely nothing. Right. So, I'm going to politely say no, screw that, because I believe in the purpose of a [I]forum[/I], namely, as a place to [I]discuss things.[/I] I can only make arguments [I]from the basis of what I have experienced and witnessed.[/I] I can't invent arguments on the basis of things I have [I]no evidence for.[/I] You want to show me I'm wrong? Get statistics. Duelling anecdotes leaves us nowhere better than we were before. Show me [I]evidence[/I] that 3PP are extremely common, such that (say) I have at least (say) a 2/3 chance of seeing the solution actually used, if I were to sign up for a new game tomorrow. Because even a poll of users on this forum, where folks seem to think 3PP is in wide use, players voted a [I]clear[/I] plurality (40.4%) that they literally never get to use 3PP, and almost a majority (49.4%) were either "never" or "rarely". The idea that 3PP is a super common widely available thing that everyone is getting to see, use, and benefit from [I]simply doesn't bear out[/I]. Even on a forum where 3PP should have had an enormous leg up. [/QUOTE]
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