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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9744799" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>I'm saying you can't speak for other people as though what you say on their behalf is in fact true. Because that isn't "discussing" things, it's just more or less white lying.</p><p></p><p>You know your opinions on a subject. You can <em>and should</em> give your opinions on a particular subject, because indeed that is where the "discussion" comes from. People discussing their opinions. But there is ZERO reason why you (or anyone) should be speaking on behalf of other people who they do not know and whose opinions and feelings they do not know, all in an effort to make it seem like their opinion "has more weight". If one's opinion is really that strong, no one should need to artificially create back-up for it by suggesting there's this vast sea of humanity that agrees with it.</p><p></p><p>Now, can one suggest that they <em>think</em> other people might possibly agree based on what has or has not happened or what they have or have not seen done or any other evidence they can give? Sure! I do that all the time myself. Heck, I guesstimate on what I think WotC does and does not think or what their feelings are on a particular subject based upon the results that I have seen. But I never state that what I'm saying is in fact true, it's merely my opinion based on their actions. When someone makes a point about some random X and I come back and say that based upon previous things WotC has said about "Rulings, Not Rules", that that's probably why X hasn't been done... I don't know if that is in fact true or the actual reason why we haven't seen X occur... but it's just my best guess on it and adding to the discussion. I'm not even saying I'm right... merely why I think I <em>might</em> be right.</p><p></p><p>You have a lot of what I think are good opinions on things (and many things I disagree with)... so stand tall with those opinions on their own. You don't need to make it seem better or more right by faking this idea that other people agree with you. Because quite frankly if your opinion is in fact better or more right, other people are going to chime into the thread as well to support it. And that's a stronger argument than making something up like "3/4ths of the playerbase don't want X!" as though you actually know what 3/4ths of the playerbase actually believe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9744799, member: 7006"] I'm saying you can't speak for other people as though what you say on their behalf is in fact true. Because that isn't "discussing" things, it's just more or less white lying. You know your opinions on a subject. You can [I]and should[/I] give your opinions on a particular subject, because indeed that is where the "discussion" comes from. People discussing their opinions. But there is ZERO reason why you (or anyone) should be speaking on behalf of other people who they do not know and whose opinions and feelings they do not know, all in an effort to make it seem like their opinion "has more weight". If one's opinion is really that strong, no one should need to artificially create back-up for it by suggesting there's this vast sea of humanity that agrees with it. Now, can one suggest that they [I]think[/I] other people might possibly agree based on what has or has not happened or what they have or have not seen done or any other evidence they can give? Sure! I do that all the time myself. Heck, I guesstimate on what I think WotC does and does not think or what their feelings are on a particular subject based upon the results that I have seen. But I never state that what I'm saying is in fact true, it's merely my opinion based on their actions. When someone makes a point about some random X and I come back and say that based upon previous things WotC has said about "Rulings, Not Rules", that that's probably why X hasn't been done... I don't know if that is in fact true or the actual reason why we haven't seen X occur... but it's just my best guess on it and adding to the discussion. I'm not even saying I'm right... merely why I think I [I]might[/I] be right. You have a lot of what I think are good opinions on things (and many things I disagree with)... so stand tall with those opinions on their own. You don't need to make it seem better or more right by faking this idea that other people agree with you. Because quite frankly if your opinion is in fact better or more right, other people are going to chime into the thread as well to support it. And that's a stronger argument than making something up like "3/4ths of the playerbase don't want X!" as though you actually know what 3/4ths of the playerbase actually believe. [/QUOTE]
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