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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinak" data-source="post: 6116697" data-attributes="member: 6694112">Nothing stops me from throwing together my own monster stats without going through the whole process. I do it all the time.For example, I'm going to be running encounters next week in Pathfinder  that involves three monsters from the Bestiary and one monster with  class levels added. I already have all of their stats, literally sitting in front of me, but I'll be restatting all of them to be easier to run and more distinctive.Now, I don't doubt that Paizo can produce cool, interesting monsters. But, because of the way 3.5 monsters work, you end up with this huge mess of stats justifying the stats that you're actually using and then a bunch of other stats based on those justifications so you get... garbage, really, or at least more noise than signal.That's what I don't want to see in 5e. I don't need them to justify the monster's stats to me. I just need the monster's stats.Well, I'm not claiming any moral authority there. I don't mean "shouldn't" as in "you're a bad person if you do this," just "shouldn't" as in "I think that's a bad idea."But I do believe that building enemies using the PC rules reaches the level of being a bad idea above and beyond personal preference. Using other techniques, you can build a more interesting enemy faster that will run more easily in play.You may disagree on whether that's the case. But hopefully we can agree that people "shouldn't" do more work to get worse results.I can't speak specifically towards your Tharizdun fight, but I'm familiar with your slaad lords (which are awesome, by the way). At least with those, I agree going 4e doesn't really change anything, but you're also not building them using classes that I remember.Hand-crafting epic boss fights is the way to go. I won't disagree with that at all. Far from it.But I don't think building the boss with PC classes will make the fight better (even if the boss is nominally a wizard or whatever). In my experience, you get a ton of abilities you don't need and, after all that work, still have to add the features that make the fight epic.Cheers!Kinak</blockquote>

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