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<blockquote data-quote="DerHauptman" data-source="post: 2812093" data-attributes="member: 39988">AgreedI agree that not all characters are for everyone but they can try to play them in my game.&nbsp; Of course, I agree with ya that if the group is a bunch of impatient people that will not help a player out there will be a needs of many vs. needs of few delema.&nbsp; A simple mater of slow math or lack of whitty reparte' is not gonna exclude them from an option they want to persue at my table - perhaps they can get better after some timeI would hope that the group would just figure out that &quot;Roy&quot; sucks at math and help him out rather than get frustrated and relegate him to a support role becasue of it. I am of course an optimist.&nbsp; I say support role becasue the role cited by the OP was a fighter and in a high combat game he (the math challenged) may not want to play anything else.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think all players have at least one inherent weakness if they help each other in real life at the admin stuff, helping the table run smoothely, like thier characters are supposed to be doing in game all will go well.&nbsp; Heck I even appreciate players helping me whip out the math when I DM it makes the game go smoothe.&nbsp; Like I might throw 10 d6s in a box and ask a player to add them up while I start the actions of the next bad guy.&nbsp; It works for us.&nbsp; I respect your opinion and your point of view and if it works for you and yours all is well.&nbsp; You don't need me to say that though, please dont take it in a condecending maner.&nbsp; There is no sarcasm here - k.&nbsp; &nbsp; With that I wish you happy gaming - no need to debate further.&nbsp; Happy New Year!Look forward to future participation - I am new and loving the place.&nbsp; DerHauptman</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DerHauptman, post: 2812093, member: 39988"] [b]Agreed[/b] I agree that not all characters are for everyone but they can try to play them in my game. Of course, I agree with ya that if the group is a bunch of impatient people that will not help a player out there will be a needs of many vs. needs of few delema. A simple mater of slow math or lack of whitty reparte' is not gonna exclude them from an option they want to persue at my table - perhaps they can get better after some time I would hope that the group would just figure out that "Roy" sucks at math and help him out rather than get frustrated and relegate him to a support role becasue of it. I am of course an optimist. I say support role becasue the role cited by the OP was a fighter and in a high combat game he (the math challenged) may not want to play anything else. I think all players have at least one inherent weakness if they help each other in real life at the admin stuff, helping the table run smoothely, like thier characters are supposed to be doing in game all will go well. Heck I even appreciate players helping me whip out the math when I DM it makes the game go smoothe. Like I might throw 10 d6s in a box and ask a player to add them up while I start the actions of the next bad guy. It works for us. I respect your opinion and your point of view and if it works for you and yours all is well. You don't need me to say that though, please dont take it in a condecending maner. There is no sarcasm here - k. With that I wish you happy gaming - no need to debate further. Happy New Year! Look forward to future participation - I am new and loving the place. DerHauptman [/QUOTE]

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