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Message: <blockquote data-quote="youspoonybard" data-source="post: 1155251" data-attributes="member: 12242">Normally, when you try and start a grapple, you do the AoO, touch attack, then the grapple check.  If the grapple check hits, you deal some damage (Unarmed Strike damage, specifically).When you do an Improved Grab, however, you attack with, say, a claw.  If the claw hits, it deals damage normally.  Then, the creature can decide if it wants to grapple the guy or not.  If he does, he rolls his opposed grapple check, and if he wins, the opponent is grappled.  No more damage is done.If the creature has Improved Grab and Constrict, see the above example and add a final step: after the opponent is successfully grappled, he also takes constrict damage.In the first round, it depends whether or not he decides to take that -20 to his grapple check to be considered Grappling or not.  If he conducts the grapple normally, he's in a grapple, and I'm pretty sure he forfeits all of this remaining attacks this round.  If he takes the -20 penalty, he's not considered grappled, and he can make the rest of his attacks (Claw, Bite) against other opponents.  He can "grapple" his opponent with the claw attack every round, leaving the other 2 attacks for other people.WARNING: There is some debate as to what happens in following rounds.I am of the party that says that when you win an opposed grapple check during your turn, you do whatever you were trying to do with that opposed check (like, pin an opponent, or "damage your opponent") as well as doing Improved Grab damage.  If you have constrict, you ALSO do constrict damage.Note that there is debate over this though.Hope I'm helping you here!</blockquote>

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