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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maggan" data-source="post: 3343943" data-attributes="member: 6616">Hello!At several times during my stay at EN World I have noticed a discussion that crops up every once in a while; has 3e passed 2nd edition when it comes to number of products released? Some people have a gut feeling that is the case, and even cite it as "evidence" that a new edition has to be in the works.In my mind, just looking at my bookshelf, I would say "no". I don't have as much 2e as I do 3e, but I also know that I don't really have a lot of 2e stuff to begin with.So I figured I'd try to look into this. What I did was simply to go to <a href="http://www.hitpointe.com" target="_blank">www.hitpointe.com</a> and compile a list of the stuff they've got listed for AD&D1e and AD&D2e. Straightforward enough, it would seem.Not really ... Hitpointe lists some stuff that is not books, and some books that are art books, and sometimes they mix 1e with 2e (Forgotten Realms) so the data is not totally 100% accurate. I think it does give a good indication though. But also some books for 3e seems to be missing. Or I'm confusing books announced with books released.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Also, some of you will cry foul for me not including D&D minis. I'm just not sure how to do that, what with boosters and the collectible aspect of it. Also I don't know how many different products are out and I couldn't find any info from Hitpointe. And I didn't go to Wizards' site. But if you think they should be counted for D&D3e, just add 15 or so to the total (I'm just not sure how many series they've done). Although I have counted tiles as a D&D product, not a D&D minis product. Hey, this is not a thesis! You won't get academic standards here!  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Come to think of it, I haven't included KenzerCo or Paizo either ... hmmm ... well, I'm betting it won't matter in the end. Their total output is about 30 books or so.Note that the following numbers are only AD&D1e, AD&D2e and D&D3e.AD&D1e = 175 productsAD&D2e = 769 productsD&D3e = 116 productsSo, even though I'll allow for mistakes in compilation and such, it seems as if D&D3e still hasn't surpassed AD&D1e, and that it will take about 2 years before they do (assuming 30 releases per year which fits the current schedule).According to these numbers, it will take D&D3e close to 22 years to reach the sheer volume of AD&D2e with todays pace of releases.Let's be generous and add in D&D minis and my estimate of 15 products, and let's say 10 more each year (a couple of booster series and some colossal gargantuans and maybe some extras). Also lets knock down AD&D2e to 700 to make sure I don't add stuff that shouldn't be there. A conservative estimate, if you will.Then it would take D&D3e only a bit over 14 years to surpass AD&D2e. And just over a year to surpass AD&D1st.The numbers are not totally accurate, but they give enough of a guidance that I with confidence can say that AD&D1st and D&D3e has roughly the same amount of product released up to date, and that AD&D2nd has about five times as much stuff released as either of the others.I hope someone finds this information interesting. I sure did./MEDIT: Also, the times I've done business with Hitpointe, my experiences have been very good.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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