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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 4770880" data-attributes="member: 114">very rarely!Most of the time the PCs shout out their total to hit (with triumph or groan as appropriate) and wait for me to tell them whether they have hit or not.I've occasionally seen "roll damage and to-hit together to speed up combat" mentioned, but I've always thought it would just engender the very confusion which you mention here.Sometimes I ask people to give me the breakdown of their to hit chance ("have you actually got +13? Could you just break that down for me?") - not because they are cheating, but because in 4e there are all manner of little mods to hit or damage which are stacking up.Cheers</blockquote>