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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1190326" data-attributes="member: 2011">Put a Wall of Force up in front of your Illusionary Wall.Although the True Seeing will note the invisibility of the Wall of Force, it will not be able to penetrate it (due to the description of Wall of Force) to note the illusory qualities of the Wall behind it.Presuming that your DM agrees that Force spells create solid effects, you could also try the following. If your DM does not agree, then you cannot.You could use Shadow Conjuration to produce the following effect:1) Shadow Conjure a "summon monster" creature. The creature is quasi-real, so you can cast other spells on it.2) Cast Mage Armor (or even Shadow Conjuration Mage Armor) on the shadow conjured creature. Mage Armor is arguably solid, so True Seeing cannot see past it.This is really bending the rules a little (since Force effects are not well defined, at least in 3E). But to me, Force effects create the equivalent of invisible solid matter or energy, depending on what effect is created. YMMV.You could at least attempt to talk your DM into allowing this. One possible argument is that incorporeal creatures can move through solid objects, but cannot move through force objects. Hence, magical force objects are stronger than solid objects and should stop magical effects that solid objects stop.On page 76 DMG 3E, it states:"Force effects are a special exception. A material force effect..."This implies that force effects are material effects (presumably solid material effects). Course, the description of Magic Missile implies that force effects are energy. So, ...Good luck. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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