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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1191552" data-attributes="member: 2011">Except that it does not trump the entire school of illusion.It trumps the visual portion of that school.For example, Lightning Bolt and Fireball are instantaneous spells. Using Shadow Evocation, True Seeing would allow you to know they are illusions, but not instantaneously (at least by any reasonable DM who had an illusionist PC in the group). At best, opponents might get the +4 bonus to their save for being aware that it is an illusion.An opponent with True Seeing, fine. Cast Shadow Conjuration of a circular Wall of Iron around him. Since the Wall is quasi-real, it will prevent that opponent from seeing beyond it at other illusions. He will know that the wall is an illusion, but will not be able to see beyond it because the wall is also made of shadow matter.Cast Phantasmal Killer or Weird at True Seeing opponents. These spells are not visual, rather they are in the mind of the recipient. You cannot see within your own mind, not even with True Seeing.Put illusions more than 120 feet away, beyond the visual range of True Seeing.Cast Greater Dispel Magic before casting illusions or after an opponent appears to have cast True Seeing.Cast illusions without visual components. Sounds can be used to great affect to influence others, especially in eerie settings.Attempt to encounter enemy spell casters multiple times per day. True Seeing has a duration of one minute per level. A half hour later, most spell casters will no longer have the spell up. In fact, try to suck those True Seeing spells out of enemy spell casters by having obvious illusions or by having invisible allies. Once they appear to be able to see your allies (by making a Spell Crafting check when an opponent spell caster casts True Seeing, or by them just noticing your Improved Invisible allies), then retreat (teleport away, etc.) and come back later.Finally, talk to the DM. Make sure he is aware of how disruptive True Seeing is to the game and how although opponents who are ready for combat should have it, a lot of other spell casters who are not necessarily prepared for fighting might not.</blockquote>

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