(OA) Nezumi: Multiattack, monk speed and unarmed damage type

[Kroax]

I was making a lvl 5 Nezumi monk for our short upcoming campaign when I saw that nezumi's have bite and claw attacks (it's the first time I use this book, so...).

So I was thinking, is it possible for nezumi's to take the Multiattack feat instead of Two-Weapon Fighting and Ambidexterity to get more attacks at -2? And if I haven't misunderstood the Multiattack feat, it would only be the two secondary attacks that got the penalty, right?

Yes, I know it says in the nezumi entry that they can only make one attack per round this way, but it doesn't mantion anything about Multiattack or Improved Unarmed Strike (monk). But it seems a bit powerful.

Another thing is nezumi speed and monk speed. Nezumi's have a natural speed of 40. A human monk have speed 40 at level 5, but does nezumi lvl 5 monk have speed 40, 50 or 60?

A human monk gets his speed multiplied with his monk level/10+1 rounded to the closest 10nth (Sorry about the strange explanation, I'm not good at explaining math in english), but you do NOT apply the D&D rule that fractions get rounded down, only 5's.

That means a lvl 5 monk gets 30x(1+5/10)=45=40

A nezumi should then get 40x(1+5/10)=60

I actually doesn't have a clue wich is the right one.

The last question is what type of damage a nezumi monk makes (unarmed), if it's bludgeoning, slashing, piercing or if he/she gets to choose. The latter seems the most logical to me, but I thought it best to check and see what you guys think.

 

[drnuncheon]

Re: Nezumi: Multiattack, monk speed and unarmed damage type

I was making a lvl 5 Nezumi monk for our short upcoming campaign when I saw that nezumi's have bite and claw attacks (it's the first time I use this book, so...).

So I was thinking, is it possible for nezumi's to take the Multiattack feat instead of Two-Weapon Fighting and Ambidexterity to get more attacks at -2? And if I haven't misunderstood the Multiattack feat, it would only be the two secondary attacks that got the penalty, right?

Yes, I know it says in the nezumi entry that they can only make one attack per round this way, but it doesn't mantion anything about Multiattack or Improved Unarmed Strike (monk). But it seems a bit powerful.

They don't get any more attacks than humans do - they just have an extra option (bite). The 'only one attack per round' is meant to clarify that, I think, so people didn't think they got claw/claw/bite. Thus, they are not eligible for multiattack (but could do 2WF/Ambi and get claw/claw or claw/bite - or use bite attacks in their monkish attacks).

Another thing is nezumi speed and monk speed. Nezumi's have a natural speed of 40. A human monk have speed 40 at level 5, but does nezumi lvl 5 monk have speed 40, 50 or 60?

According to the table in Sword & Fist, they have speed 50 - it looks from the table like they get +10 to their speeds across the board.

On the other hand, if you look at Small monks, their speed always remains roughly 2/3 that of a Medium monk, so you might conclude that S&F is a crock and do it your way (Nezumi monk speed is 125% of human monk speed - or 2 * small monk speed if you prefer.). That would certainly fit in with how they treat the blade dancer's speed increase in OA.

J

 

[Kroax]

Thanks but...

I still need some answers on some of the other of my questions.

Bump!

 

[Black Omega]

I was making a lvl 5 Nezumi monk for our short upcoming campaign when I saw that nezumi's have bite and claw attacks (it's the first time I use this book, so...).

So I was thinking, is it possible for nezumi's to take the Multiattack feat instead of Two-Weapon Fighting and Ambidexterity to get more attacks at -2? And if I haven't misunderstood the Multiattack feat, it would only be the two secondary attacks that got the penalty, right?

The nezumi seem to have all the prereqs for the feat, three natural weapons. I don't see why it would not be taken. And yes, the secondary attacks suffer the -2.

Yes, I know it says in the nezumi entry that they can only make one attack per round this way, but it doesn't mantion anything about Multiattack or Improved Unarmed Strike (monk). But it seems a bit powerful.

Getting multiple 1d4 attacks is powerful? I'm not sure it's worth a feat, actually. And natural weapons have nothing to do with unarmed strikes, unless something has been changed or clarified on this someplace?

Another thing is nezumi speed and monk speed. Nezumi's have a natural speed of 40. A human monk have speed 40 at level 5, but does nezumi lvl 5 monk have speed 40, 50 or 60?

50 ft. No need in over complicating it.

The last question is what type of damage a nezumi monk makes (unarmed), if it's bludgeoning, slashing, piercing or if he/she gets to choose. The latter seems the most logical to me, but I thought it best to check and see what you guys think.

A nezumi monk's unarmed strikes are bludgeoning. If he uses natural weapons I believe it is slashing. Has the Sage said someplace that natural weapons stack with the mon's unarmed combat? Otherwise, they seem like two separate things.