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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xorn" data-source="post: 4144133" data-attributes="member: 61231">Olgar is dead on.  400 is the baseline encounter, challenging but manageable. For four 1st level, and you want an epic fight?  600 xp.  Seems like if you go over 50% of the party xp level, you start dancing around with TPKs.  At 600 xp there's a good chance one of them will drop, maybe even two of them--but they'll probably win, though good or bad tactics can sway that massively.That solo white is what... 750 xp?  (Guessing by math, don't have the stats handy.)  A level 3 = 150 xp x5 for solo = 750.  That should be a likely chance for a TPK.  With a 5th it would be a perfect "hard" fight.  Meh, throw it at them anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  You're supposed to be teaching them the Death & Dying rules!  Besides, there's a good chance they'll blow a round of action points and dailies in the first round, and your dragon will be hurting.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />One advantage of the TPK, no one asks if you have the rules to level up!</blockquote>